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DC Announces New Movie and TV Plans

Jer

Legend
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So they are rebooting Green Lantern, as a TV Series., but as a prestige detective show.
Literally the first time anyone has used the words "Green Lantern" in a DCEU context that has even given me a hint of interest.

But if it's Hal Jordan solving mysteries I'm back out again. DC needs to stop trying to convince people that Hal Jordan is interesting. He's such a charisma sink of a character that he makes Ryan Reynolds less interesting while he's playing him.

The one thing that I was truly excited for is on hold, indefinitely. Oh well. I guess time is a flat circle after all.
Yeah that stinks. At this point Doom Patrol and Peacemaker were the two things I have the most interest in. A Waller series doesn't really bring the same interest for me.
 

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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Literally the first time anyone has used the words "Green Lantern" in a DCEU context that has even given me a hint of interest.

But if it's Hal Jordan solving mysteries I'm back out again. DC needs to stop trying to convince people that Hal Jordan is interesting. He's such a charisma sink of a character that he makes Ryan Reynolds less interesting while he's playing him.

I mean.... honestly, I am too confused by the combination of words to be intrigued at this point.

It would be like ....
Martian Manhunter in a zany teen comedy.
The Flash is a mockumentary loosely based on The Office.
Batman in the Real Househusbands of Gotham City.

It's just ... I don't know, the words are swirling around in my head and not connecting.

Yeah that stinks. At this point Doom Patrol and Peacemaker were the two things I have the most interest in. A Waller series doesn't really bring the same interest for me.

Doom Patrol is a real loss. Loved that show, but assumed that it would be canceled under the Zaslav reign of terror. Peacemaker, though? The indefinite hold is sad. Because indefinite often transmogrifies into ... never seeing again.
 


Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
Nothing says "Green Lantern" like "terrestrial mystery."
Arguably the most iconic run for Green Lantern was 100% grounded on Earth in the 1970s.

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Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
But if it's Hal Jordan solving mysteries I'm back out again. DC needs to stop trying to convince people that Hal Jordan is interesting. He's such a charisma sink of a character that he makes Ryan Reynolds less interesting while he's playing him.
I am 100% on board with the Hal Jordan hate normally, however James Gunn greenlighting it makes me think that Hal's messy nature is absolutely going to factor into this. (Probably not him having sex with an underage GL, though. Even on HBO, there are limits to what DC will go for.)

Hal Jordan, the "heroic" character who is a giant mess in every way except for his bravery, is definitely something I can see Gunn embracing.
 


Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
I'm sure you understand why, in a cultural context, that was so at the time.
Yep. But it also proves that this a grounded Green Lantern can be made to work.

Peacemaker is a terrible character, and James Gunn's Peacemaker TV show was one of the best shows of the past year. I trust he can make John Stewart and his trainwreck partner Hal Jordan compelling.
 

Jer

Legend
Supporter
I am 100% on board with the Hal Jordan hate normally, however James Gunn greenlighting it makes me think that Hal's messy nature is absolutely going to factor into this.
I mean if he's allowed to embrace the fact that a guy like Hal Jordan in real life is 100% smarmy loser and being fearless in his context would be more of a mental illness than an admirable quality ... I'm still not sure it's a show I'd want to watch but at least it would appeal to some folks. (But of course that would actually be a different character than the Hal Jordan we actually have).

(Probably not him having sex with an underage GL, though. Even on HBO, there are limits to what DC will go for.)
Oh man, the early 80s were such a weird time. And later writers trying to "rescue" that story and make it not so bad - please, I beg all of them to just stop.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
I mean if he's allowed to embrace the fact that a guy like Hal Jordan in real life is 100% smarmy loser and being fearless in his context would be more of a mental illness than an admirable quality ... I'm still not sure it's a show I'd want to watch but at least it would appeal to some folks. (But of course that would actually be a different character than the Hal Jordan we actually have).
I'd argue it's the Hal Jordan we do have. But then again, I think making Parallax into a separate character was a cop-out. If you're going to tell stories about a character for decades upon decades, embrace the good, the bad and the ugly. Not discarding the weird outlier stuff is what made Doctor Doom and Magneto so nuanced, for instance.

Let Hal be someone willing to risk his life to save the world several times a week and also a person that needs massive amounts of therapy and, based on his behavior, has a lot of family trauma to work through.

To me, that's a lot more interesting than Generic Hero Guy, which is what he and Barry Allen were originally and what Geoff Johns tried to reboot them to when he took the reins of DC a decade or so ago. (To be fair, Johns also gave Barry more of a background than "ho ho, the terminally late guy is the Flash.") The company has escaped at least some of that -- although Johns keeps wandering back in, pitching Golden Age books whenever someone leaves a door unlocked -- and it's worth them moving on from the vanilla version of Hal that has been unconvincingly propped up for the last decade or so.

There are a lot of much better Green Lanterns now. The only arguments for using Hal instead of any of the others is nostalgia or because you're going to actually embrace the stuff that makes Hal someone interesting, which are his gaping, cavernous flaws.
 
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