wtf! Chi is based on Hands !?

[Flobby]

Hara = abdomen, Kiri = cut. It has nothing to do with 気 (ki) nor does Okinawa, but maybe that was a joke?

 

[le Redoutable]

of course, the idea is relative to Tolerance

Bedrockgames indicated a mystical flag;
this is very seful for me, for I can point some demonstrations of ( say ) obscure ( to say connected with hidden knowledge ) shows of Great Sorcerors from Martial Arts ( not sure if it's well dicted sorry )

 

[Tun Kai Poh]

Chi literally means "breath" in my mother tongue, and the cultivation of chi is used to explain special abilities and powers in a wide range of fiction, from more grounded martial arts stories to the godlike feats and immortality attained in xianxia tales.

In general, D&D stats like Constitution and Dexterity are a poor fit for tracking chi development, because they are usually innate ability scores tied to one's inborn potential (as I see it - others have interpreted them differently). In D&D you cannot simply train for years sitting under waterfalls or meditating in caves to build your stats - you need to gain XP from adventuring - or through external boosts such as magic items or Wish spells.

CJ Leung (also known for his tutorial videos for D&D 5e and Call of Cthulhu 7e), does a good job of explaining Chi Cultivation tropes by using a framework that will make things more clear for Western audiences - Brandon Sanderson's magic system classification.

 

[le Redoutable]

basically, you won't pronouce Ki like Tchi;
in ancient times, China transcriptions ( tell me if I'm wrong ) were to Tchi;
now they translate to Qi;
still ( theorically ) they still pronounce Tchi;

again, Qi is not the same word as Ki ( I'm asking myself what the latter's define is )

 

[Tun Kai Poh]

basically, you won't pronouce Ki like Tchi;
in ancient times, China transcriptions ( tell me if I'm wrong ) were to Tchi;
now they translate to Qi;
still ( theorically ) they still pronounce Tchi;

again, Qi is not the same word as Ki ( I'm asking myself what the latter's define is )

This is gibberish to me and has no context outside my mother culture. Please explain what you are talking about.

 

[le Redoutable]

hey sorry I wasn't responding to your ( good ) post
the only thing I have to add is:
in Ad&d days spells were using V,S,M components;
Verbal, Somatic ( here gestures ===> Dex ) , Material ;

 

[le Redoutable]

oh something:

a long time ago I was introduced to a Korean student, who showed me he could blow out a candle using his hands doing a gust of wind !
this is pure Tchi proficiency

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Ki is for Karate users, while Tchi is for Taï Tchi Tchuan users
( ok ? )

No.

Prove it.

Spoiler, you can’t, because this is false. Ki is the Japanese word for qi, which you are weirdly calling perhaps the least common spelling.

In karate, ki means breath. Kiai is a shout used in all Japanese martial arts traditions.

In all East Asian MA traditions, everything start with breath. (This is also true outside EA, and outside martial arts, btw.)

 

[le Redoutable]

you are too overconfident for your sayings to be true;
add ein bischien Tolerance to your sayings and I'll applause laughly .

 

[gamerprinter]

Not that I plan to tackle Chi as third party for D&D in any possible publication involving such rules, not anytime soon either. When I developed my Kaidan setting of Japanese Horror (PFRPG), I altered Paizo's own Samurai class, allowing the base class as is, but created a half dozen archetypes of it to create the variety of 'subfields' found in actual Japanese society, versus any fantasy Asian expectations by anyone. I'm half Japanese, have extensive cultural, historic and folklore knowledge over a lifetime of study, combined with more recent intense study in my attempt at that time to create a more authentic Japanese setting slanted to Japanese horror. No sacred cows from Paizo or historically in D&D was safe, existing bestiary content, spellings of classes (kensei is sword saint, kensai is a made up word, for example). If I thought a given pubished design as it exists doesn't fit Japanese folklore, history or culture, that is was either content taken out of context, or an Asian seeming idea that has no Asian source - I threw it out the window and redesigned it from scratch to match and stay true to the Japanese perspective, not caring what anyone else decided some Japanese content was in previous work. I started from scratch with most everything, and got something I could sleep well at night as having my name on it. I would NOT do Chi as 'in the hands', I would go a different way...