What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

[Kariotis]

The point is that it is not our call to make. We're not here to explain away what other people ought or ought not be offended by, at least it doesn't help anyone. What does help? Actually listening to a wide range of people, their perceptions and opinions. Getting knowledgeable about other peoples' experiences.

 

[Voadam]

I have seen that cover so much but never noticed that detail before

It gets cut out or reworked in a number of homages.

 

[Scribe]

I mean, most of these complaints really seem levelled against Disney and their sprawling franchise - which is fair enough.

Because Wizards has been on a track to 'disney-fication' D&D over the last several years, and as far as RPG's goes, its at least as big a gorilla as Disney is.

Its the undercurrent of the direction the game's presentation has been going in for a long time now.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The point is that it is not our call to make. We're not here to explain away what other people ought or ought not be offended by, at least it doesn't help anyone. What does help? Actually listening to a wide range of people, their perceptions and opinions. Getting knowledgeable about other peoples' experiences.

What are we here for? Do people want to have a discussion, or do they want to be right?

 

[Micah Sweet]

It gets cut out or reworked in a number of homages.

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This reminds me how much I loved the original Hackmaster. Still have the full set of the Hacklopedia of Beasts and the insane Game Shield.

 

[Bedrockgames]

So not a problem from this century millennium then... I mean most people playing probably weren't even born when that came out.

I am not troubled by them. I like the art and layout of the 2E books. I still play 2E and it was a bit frustrating the only the revised PHB and DMM are the only ones available drivethru (still have my old 2E books but they are falling apart). Not sure if the interior images had anything to do with that decision though

 

[Kariotis]

What are we here for? Do people want to have a discussion, or do they want to be right?

Sure we can have a discussion, that's what we're doing, including your and my post. But look at what's been happening all over the thread, too: people minimizing other peoples' complaints and experiences instead of acknowledging that other people may experience things differently than them. Which is especially questionable in those cases where the complaints and experiences don't touch on the real-world life experience of those doing the minimizing.

 

[Voadam]

This reminds me how much I loved the original Hackmaster. Still have the full set of the Hacklopedia of Beasts and the insane Game Shield.

I have the Hacklopedias as well and agree they are pretty fantastic. Slotted seamlessly into an AD&D game I ran as well. I wish they were still available as PDFs for sale.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I have the Hacklopedias as well and agree they are pretty fantastic. Slotted seamlessly into an AD&D game I ran as well. I wish they were still available as PDFs for sale.

I remember a gaming friend suggesting we switch to hack master when TSR went under because it’s similar and was still being printed

 

[Bedrockgames]

It gets cut out or reworked in a number of homages.

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Even the original artwork I just never saw the figure in his hand