D&D (2024) Playtest Druid and Paladin One D&D survey is live.

[Maxperson]

to not have them overpower other players and keep combat more interesting, yes

They don't, though. I've both played a paladin and DM'd for a paladin. We both used smites liberally. Multiple times a round fairly often. Not once did they overpower the enemy. At least not until the DM of my paladin gave me a +4 staff that added 4d8 radiant damage to every hit. Then my smites got ridiculous since I was hitting more often and basically had a free 4th level smite on every hit that stacked with my regular smites. THAT was his fault, though.

I doubt close to a majority is unhappy with the change either

You're probably right about that. I'm not so much unhappy with it as pointing out how it doesn't actually help at all. I'm going to ignore that change since paladins didn't overpower the other classes in the first place.

 

[mamba]

What are they fixing? I see nothing to indicate that their 6-8 encounter work day isn't going forward.

other things like smite. I am not seeing an indication for # of encounters, but I would not mind that. I would not expect some kind of admission of guilt / a mistake even if they did though

 

[MonsterEnvy]

They are explicitly changing encounter building. That will be a future document.

Also once again people have not read the 6-8 thing. It’s based on an EXP budget and not standard. Easy means more harder means less.

 

[mamba]

They are explicitly changing encounter building. That will be a future document.

where did they say that?

 

[Parmandur]

They are explicitly changing encounter building. That will be a future document.

Also once again people have not read the 6-8 thing.

Sure, theybare adjusting the guidelines, but we can see from the Class design so far that the balancing framework is still on a maximal resource draining style, while allowing for more casual play. Same as 2014, even if the CR math is reworked from top to bottom.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

where did they say that?

Second pdf

 

[Parmandur]

where did they say that?

In the Decemver Cleric Playtest document, the road map has two Monster related bullet points, one for new Monster stat blocks and another promising revised encounter guidelines. Not a lot of explanation on what that means, but theybare looking to overhaul the guidelines in some fashion. The latest playtest revised the road map to be just PHB focused, promising the MM and DMG changes will be looked at after thenPHB is mailed down, so who knows what's going on now.

I doubt they will change the overall framework, but the guidelines for Encounter building will change.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

In the Decemver Cleric Playtest document, the road map has two Monster related bullet points, one for new Monster stat blocks and another promising revised encounter guidelines. Not a lot of explanation on what that means, but theybare looking to overhaul the guidelines in some fashion. The latest playtest revised the road map to be just PHB focused, promising the MM and DMG changes will be looked at after thenPHB is mailed down, so who knows what's going on now.

I doubt they will change the overall framework, but the guidelines for Encounter building will change.

Not quite they are saying they are doing a PHB playtest, then following that a MM and DMG playtest.

 

[mamba]

Second pdf

at the time I was thinking this is about adjusting CR / a single encounter., did not think that would extend to changing the number of encounters per day, guess we will see

 

[Parmandur]

Not quite they are saying they are doing a PHB playtest, then following that a MM and DMG said playtest.

Yeah, I'm just pointing out their road map changed from all Encompassing to just PHB focused.