Planescape 5e Planescape- What would you like to see in the upcoming setting?

[Vinicius Lessa]

Might have been yours truly: Planescape - Planescape: Fantasy Taken to the Edge (5e conversion)

Another poster here (@I'm A Banana IIRC) did a 5e writeup for Planescape factions too that's quite good: Current Project - Jacob's Personal Wiki

Oops, my bad. Yes, it's Quickleaf (almost got it ). I'm taking a look at Jacob's (@I'm A Banana ) material and it's pretty awesome, too. Thank you both for those.

I hope the official material end up following that direction and having the same care and love that you folks put into those.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

They're not going to reduce the number of upper planes unless they get rid of all the dual-alignment planes, because they like their symmetry. Which, theoretically, they could do--they've basically ignored all the lower planes in favor of the Abyss and Nine Hells already. Since they have already blended the para/quasi-elemental planes into the basic four elemental planes, I wouldn't be surprised if Pandamonium, Carceri, Gehenna, and Acheron got blended into other planes: Pandemonium (and Ysgard) and Carceri (and Bytopia) can become part of Limbo and Mechanus, respectively, and Genenna and Acheron can become part of the Abyss and Nine Hells.

I'm of two minds about that, myself. I actually prefer those dual-aligned planes to the Abyss and Hells; I find them a lot more interesting and wouldn't want them to be removed or mixed in with another plane. Heck, I'd be happy if the Abyss and Hells were totally downplayed, simply because I find them really boring (I know they won't be, though). On the other hand, I know that, if I were to run a Planescape game, I'd completely change the planes around to be more to my liking anyway, and my idea is closer to what I think 4e did, with individual domains claimed by deities and arch-whatevers or just naturally-formed bits of weirdness, than anything like the Great Wheel. After all, I don't need both a Limbo and an Elemental Chaos, after all. But that's me; probably some people like them both.

While there are still planes and layers named after parts of real-world religions and mythologies, I think it might be more important to simply remove the real-world gods from the setting. Or at least the real-world gods that haven't been co-opted into a D&D religion, like Bahamut and Loviatar. What I would like to see is them come up with a brand new bunch of gods to fill in the blanks where the real gods had been used previously. Not just renaming the real gods into something more fantastic, but literally new gods.

(Sadly, though, the book is going to be 96 pages long; there's no way they'll come up with a new grouping of gods, even if they only gave them each a 1-sentence description.)

The cosmology has been set up in the original core books, they aren't going to eliminate anything from although I doubt they will focus on the material or mirror planes.

I think it'll mostly flesh out the Outer, Inner, and Astral Planes. Maybe something on the energy planes.

But no eliminating planes.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I wonder how the setting will handle real world Gods? I mean the Norse are hugely important to Ysgard and the Grecoroman Gods are massively important to Aborea. I personally think they should split Avandor and Olympus into 2 seperate layers of Aborea, its a weird mix.

And do something really thing cool with Pelion, its not clear whay Pelion's purpose ever was. It was just kind of there.

Maybe stick the Egyptian/Mulhorandi and Mesoptiamian/Untherite Gods there.

I mean they can't get rid of the Greek Gods from Mount Olympus in Aborea, nor the Norse from Ysgard.

I'm wondering if the Nymphs from Theros get an updated stat block given Mount Olympus and all.

If they do Hindu deities, hopefully they don't do stuff like stick Indra into Limbo again, that was weird. If anything flavour wise Aborea is more fitting.

I'd love if Aquella made more sense, I mean for most of the Ocean its 3 feet, outside of deep canyons, but someone can't figure out if the surface has islands or not, I mean just stand up.

Actually how the realms of Gods works in Limbo is a good question period.

I really hope we get more details on Divine Domains in the Astral Sea. I mean I get its where they stick the Gods who don't fit into the Outerplanes, like 4e Gods, maybe some 3e FR Great Tree Planes like Brightwater and Heiropolis which seems to make more sense as a Divine Domain honestly.

Also what is the new Chaotic Good Celestial race going to be now that most Eladrin are fey or humaniods?

This time I'd like something more Greco-Roman themed. Muses? Erotes?

I wonder if they will relate the Archons of Mount Celestia, to the Archons of Theros & Ravnica or even mention them because of possible confusion (both are paragons of spiritual law).

 

[Parmandur]

I wonder how the setting will handle real world Gods? I mean the Norse are hugely important to Ysgard and the Grecoroman Gods are massively important to Aborea. I personally think they should split Avandor and Olympus into 2 seperate layers of Aborea, its a weird mix.

And do something really thing cool with Pelion, its not clear whay Pelion's purpose ever was. It was just kind of there.

Maybe stick the Egyptian/Mulhorandi and Mesoptiamian/Untherite Gods there.

I mean they can't get rid of the Greek Gods from Mount Olympus in Aborea, nor the Norse from Ysgard.

I'm wondering if the Nymphs from Theros get an updated stat block given Mount Olympus and all.

If they do Hindu deities, hopefully they don't do stuff like stick Indra into Limbo again, that was weird. If anything flavour wise Aborea is more fitting.

I'd love if Aquella made more sense, I mean for most of the Ocean its 3 feet, outside of deep canyons, but someone can't figure out if the surface has islands or not, I mean just stand up.

Actually how the realms of Gods works in Limbo is a good question period.

I really hope we get more details on Divine Domains in the Astral Sea. I mean I get its where they stick the Gods who don't fit into the Outerplanes, like 4e Gods, maybe some 3e FR Great Tree Planes like Brightwater and Heiropolis which seems to make more sense as a Divine Domain honestly.

Also what is the new Chaotic Good Celestial race going to be now that most Eladrin are fey or humaniods?

This time I'd like something more Greco-Roman themed. Muses? Erotes?

I wonder if they will relate the Archons of Mount Celestia, to the Archons of Theros & Ravnica or even mention them because of possible confusion (both are paragons of spiritual law).

I seriously doubt that they will go into that in detail.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Going in-depth on the Lords of Hell and the Abyss would be fodder for a book along the lines of 3E's Fiendish Codex or the Planes of Law (Baator)/Chaos (Abyss). I'd rather not more than an overview of the power structure/court clutter up a Planescape campaign book that supposedly covering ALL the planes (I'm not fond of the fascination with demons & devils in the game - especially rulers who are unlikely to ever be directly faced, and the less of them, the happier I am).

The basics will likely get covered in Hell and the Abyss's section. I hope they do more to make the other lower planes pop.

I want playable Bladelings again.

I want them to make the Demodand as interesting as they are in Pathfinder.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I seriously doubt that they will go into that in detail.

You don't think they will at least explore the layers of planes (okay only the important ones of the Infinate Layers of the Abyss)?

 

[Parmandur]

You don't think they will at least explore the layers of planes (okay only the important ones of the Infinate Layers of the Abyss)?

I don't think they want to touch any real world gods with a 10 foot pole at this point.

If you look at the Cleric playtest packet, the flavor has removed any reference to a particular deity whatsoever.

 

[James Gasik]

What's more likely is that they mention, instead of Grecoroman and Egyptian Gods, Theros and Amonkhet.

EDIT: ditto for Kaldheim!

 

[humble minion]

What's more likely is that they mention, instead of Grecoroman and Egyptian Gods, Theros and Amonkhet.

EDIT: ditto for Kaldheim!

They made up another quasi-Egyptian pantheon for VRGtR Har'Akir, as well. Two of them in fact, the 'real' not-Egyptian pantheon, and the fake no-Egyptian pantheon that Anhktepot invented and forced his people to worship after the 'real' not-Egyptian gods cursed him. Pantheonception!

 

[Henadic Theologian]

What's more likely is that they mention, instead of Grecoroman and Egyptian Gods, Theros and Amonkhet.

EDIT: ditto for Kaldheim!

So you think they will import Theros, Amonkhet, and Kaldheim's Gods in to replace real world Gods in Planescape?

I'll point out that Tiamat and Asmodeus come from real world Gods (or fiends in Asmodeus' case). As do Silvanus, Tyr, and Lovitar in the case of the Forgotten Realms, with Silvanus & Tyr showing up on MtG cards just last year.

How would you go about ingrating MtG Gods onto Planescape?