D&D (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

[Hussar]

That is very recent. I’ve played maybe 12 hours of game time since then.

Sleep effects are not constant, okay, sure. Neither is just about thing else other than like…damage. It comes up more often than immunity to nonmagical damage, or trollish regen, IME.

LOL or, they don’t know where the line is yet between making the species rules not make people look at wotc like the older uncle at thanksgiving who genuinely doesn’t know we don’t call people that anymore, dude, and making the rules satisfying to use.

Like I said. I just went through the entire Candlekeep module - 12 adventures. Exactly one charm effect to place on the PC's.

Funnily enough, immunity to nonmagical weapons comes up nearly all the time, and, if you ever give it to a player, it will comes up every single session. As I learned to my chagrin after allowing a PC to become a lycanthrope wererat. It was insanely powerful. Something I will never allow again.

 

[Faolyn]

My initial point was that I wonder if WotC has learned that there is a significant number of players who don’t really care about racial mechanics when choosing a race. It would nicely explain why WotC is de-emphasizing racial mechanics.

It's becoming quite common for games (of the top of my head, Cypher, Fate, some PbtA) to simply have race/species/whatever to have no mechanics at all, or have optional mechanics.

 

[Scribe]

Why not just rename and redo half orc and half elf?

Because why are those important, but Dwarf + (non-Orc non-Elf) isnt? Or Halfling + ? Or Dragonborn +?

Historical precedent, sure, I can buy into that, and the fact that people will and do identify with any given option, but...if they are going to 'fix' something, they should do it completely no?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I still think we don't need every combination.

I mean the halfelf just gave Elven language, a bonus skill, Fey ancestery, and a +1.

Can't e just combine all the mortal with elven, fey gnomish, fey gobliniod, fey firborg heritage with people touched by noble fey into a new renamed race?

We are renaming and redoingrace. Why not just rename and redo half orc and half elf?

40 pages later, and we are back to asking the basic question of the thread as if it hadn’t been explored at all already…

Can we stop with the tangents and go back to how this is a huge "you don't exist" to all mixed-race people? (which includes the whole Latino population?)

Yes please.

Like seriously the “you’re really either European or Native, regardless of how you look” solution is just flat out unacceptable.

I plan on being in their faces about it until the day the damn books go to print, if necessary, and they will absolutely lose every cent of future money from me if they don’t figure out how to actually represent mixed folks in a at that doesn’t erase, ya know, my grandmother.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Like I said. I just went through the entire Candlekeep module - 12 adventures. Exactly one charm effect to place on the PC's.

Good for Candlekeep?

Funnily enough, immunity to nonmagical weapons comes up nearly all the time, and, if you ever give it to a player, it will comes up every single session. As I learned to my chagrin after allowing a PC to become a lycanthrope wererat. It was insanely powerful. Something I will never allow again.

I have never used it against PCs with no magic weapons, and I’ve had it come up once as a player, in the 9 years I’ve been playing 5e.

Charm comes up very single campaign, at least once a story arc.

Edit: And good lord who cares!?

Lol seriously dude I don’t judge how much a trait impacts the mindset and experience of a person by how often published adventures make it matter to continuing the adventure. Like…what!?

How on earth does that even make sense to you?

 

[Hussar]

Can we stop with the tangents and go back to how this is a huge "you don't exist" to all mixed-race people? (which includes the whole Latino population?)

How?

How is this a huge "you don't exist"? You absolutely CAN be a mixed race character. It will say that on your character sheet. The only thing it won't be is a watered down "averaging" of the racial abilities of the two parents. Oh, and apparently, you won't be called out as the subject of racism or fetishization.

In what way is this a "you don't exist"? Like I said before, you can be a half-elf, and your half elf will be nearly identical to a 5e (2014) half elf.

 

[Minigiant]

Because why are those important, but Dwarf + (non-Orc non-Elf) isnt? Or Halfling + ? Or Dragonborn +?

Historical precedent, sure, I can buy into that, and the fact that people will and do identify with any given option, but...if they are going to 'fix' something, they should do it completely no?

They are too,

Salesman mode: And I'd sell a whole book of all the combos.

Put them in another book. Or in the DMG.There is a load of wasted space in that tome.

 

[Hussar]

Good for Candlekeep?

I have never used it against PCs with no magic weapons, and I’ve had it come up once as a player, in the 9 years I’ve been playing 5e.

Charm comes up very single campaign, at least once a story arc.

I think we're talking past each other. I'm specifically talking about PLAYER options. Monster options are totally different and a whole different element. I guess that's why I don't understand why you're talking about "troll" regeneration, as if trolls are the only creature that regenerates. Since no PC regenerates, who cares?

 

[Scribe]

They are too,

Salesman mode: And I'd sell a whole book of all the combos.

Put them in another book. Or in the DMG.There is a load of wasted space in that tome.

I mean thats fine and all, we only ever had 2 combo's for a billion years, and I'm not personally in need of Dwarf + Dragonborn....

I just think a better catch all could be done without too much effort.

 

[Minigiant]

I mean thats fine and all, we only ever had 2 combo's for a billion years, and I'm not personally in need of Dwarf + Dragonborn....

I just think a better catch all could be done without too much effort.

I would love to see for WOTC to pull up their pants and create lineage groups where only certain races can create offspring naturally.

Hairies with Hairies. Furries with Furries. Scalies with Scalies. Gobbos with Gobbos. Robots with Robots. Trees with Trees.

If you want a dwarf/dragonborn, that on the DM to make.