Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder To Get New Core Rulebooks Soon

It's not just D&D that's getting a 'revised' set of core books--Pathfinder is also getting 'remastered' books! The core rulebooks are being replaced by a new set of books, with new names, but like D&D it is being reiterated that this is not a new edition--"With the exception of a few minor variations in terminology and a slightly different mix of monsters, spells, and magic items, the rules remain largely unchanged."

The existing Pathfinder Core Rulebook, Gamemastery Guide, Bestiary, and Advanced Player’s Guide are being replaced with Pathfinder Player Core, Pathfinder GM Core, Pathfinder Monster Core, and Pathfinder Player Core 2.

These books appear to focus on re-organization and consolidation of existing material rather than substantive changes. They also represent Paizo's move away from the Open Gaming License and towards the new Open RPG Creative (ORC) license. Paizo says "This transition will result in a few minor modifications to the Pathfinder Second Edition system, notably the removal of alignment and a small number of nostalgic creatures, spells, and magic items exclusive to the OGL. These elements remain a part of the corpus of Pathfinder Second Edition rules for those who still want them, and are fully compatible with the new remastered rules, but will not appear in future Pathfinder releases."

Pathfinder 2E - Paizo Reveals Wayne Reynolds' Pathfinder Remastered Cover Sketches

While the final colour pieces won't arrive for a few weeks, Paizo's Erik Mona revealed the cover sketches of the upcoming Pathfinder Remastered core rulebooks while at the GAMA industry trade show yesterday. In an unsual move, you will actually be able to buy special 'sketch' editions of the...

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[The-Magic-Sword]

Listening to Erik Mona on Roll for Combat's stream yesterday, it sounds like this did impact their planned release schedule for 2024 but it sounds like everything announced is still on track. Maybe I misunderstood, but it sounds like the impacted material is unannounced books.

Specifically, it sounds like we just found out why there wasn't an announced rulebook line item for fall 2023, it must've been pushed back, so they could focus on getting this out.

 

[darjr]

@The-Magic-Sword
I miss understood ya. Apologies.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Question of the day!

I've been wondering the same thing since I heard about it.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I watched the stream, apparently (to quote directly) there's a plan in place for that, where the underlying math remains the same, but they haven't told us what it is. Maybe you just track the boosts separately, and then they become a modifier increase when you have enough?

Well, in practice its not like that doesn't happen currently anyway, since I don't recall odd attributes doing anything in PF2e, though its always possible I've missed something.

 

[Lojaan]

This sounds great! Tho I kinda wish they hadn't announced it so far out. Anyone looking to start PF2 are going to hit pause for a year now. I know I will.

 

[Yaarel]

I hope the Pathfinder 2 update makes full caster classes more fun to play.

Personally, I was disappointed with P2 forcing all casters into "support" roles.

I hope do see casters who can beat the snot out of warriors!

 

[Andvari]

Alternate covers. Final.

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I like the Early Access style.

 

[Retreater]

I hope do see casters who can beat the snot out of warriors!

I think that is antithetical to the design goal of the system.

 

[Rushbolt]

Mark Moreland, their director of brand strategy, elaborates on this decision and the spike in interest over the last few months here.

My problem is with the lack of transparency and the misleading statements made by this company during January. There was no indication during the sales spike that the rulebooks being purchased were, let's be honest here, being replaced. Using an old rulebook and needing to reference the errata or bringing up AoN when you play is not the way most of those purchasers envisioned their future with PF2E. It's even more sickening this statement acknowledges the profits from those sales were at least part of the impetus behind making them outdated so quickly. Paizo needs to offer an official apology, preferably on an industry-leading platform such as EN World, to the RPG community for the withholding of information they used to take advantage of buyers.

 

[Yaarel]

I think that is antithetical to the design goal of the system.

Perhaps, but because I love spellcasters, this means I am unable to enjoy or play Pathfinder − even during a time when I was aggressively looking for a non-5e gaming system to play.

Things with 5e have settled down. But I have a new respect for indy RPGs, and am still interested in playing them. It is a shame that Pathfinder cannot be one of these for me.

For the same reason I hate D&D Cleric "heal bots", I hate all Pathfinder 2 spellcasters.

The "support role" sucks.