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[Umbran]

-The RPG hobby generally would be better off if everything White Wolf ever published instantly vanished from existence and no one could remember that it had ever existed.

Mod Note:
So, when posting to a thread such as this, one should probably ask oneself - is my opinion unpopular because people disagree with the substance, or with how I present it in ways extreme enough to be insulting?

Going forwards, folks - this thread should not be a race to the bottom.

 

[MGibster]

The RPG hobby generally would be better off if everything White Wolf ever published instantly vanished from existence and no one could remember that it had ever existed. (Except for that one guy in the movie Yesterday who was also the only one who could remember the Beatles)

I'm interested in why you hold this opinion. While there were a lot of missteps, the sourcebook covering the Roma probably being the most embarassing, there are many positive things to say about White Wolf. One big positive being that Vampire brought in a lot of women and girls into TTRPGS who had no interest in games like D&D, Cyberpunk, or anything GURPS related.

As above, only substitute "White Wolf" with "Palladium Games".

While I'd rather use a cheese grater to remove stye from my eye than mess with the Palladium rules again, in what way would gaming be better had they never existed. Teenage Mutant Ninja Tutles and Other Strangeness, Robotech, Heroes Unlimited, Rifts, and other Palladium games were a hit with me as a teenager. I'm sure that Mechanoids book is going to be published any day now.

Edit: I did not see the mod warning before I posted this.

 

[MGibster]

That’s the bulk of what I wrote as a professional freelancer, and includes a bunch of work I’m still proud of and that has given a fair amount of pleasure to a goodly number of people. Not just no, but hell no.

I don't know what you wrote in paricular, but a lot of the White Wolf stuff still holds up today. Some of it seems dated today, but especially if you were writing in the 90s, it was genuinely new and different representing a breath of fresh air. The basic premise is still good.

 

[DammitVictor]

Street Fighter: the Storytelling Game and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles & Other Strangeness are two of the best roleplaying games ever published and even if you don't particularly value the rest of White Wolf or Palladium's outputs on their own merits-- I'm lukewarm at best but I acknowledge their contributions to the rest of the community-- those two games alone justify the existence of everything that came before to make them possible, and most of what came afterward as a result.

Offered both as a rebuttal, and as my own unpopular opinions in their own right.

 

[overgeeked]

I loved so much of the White Wolf stuff at the time and still do. Changeling: The Dreaming is one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

 

[Autumnal]

I don't know what you wrote in paricular, but a lot of the White Wolf stuff still holds up today. Some of it seems dated today, but especially if you were writing in the 90s, it was genuinely new and different representing a breath of fresh air. The basic premise is still good.

I co-developed Adventure, wrote a fair amount for Trinity and developed some supplements, wrote a bunch for Wraith and developed its last supplement, wrote a goodly amount for Vampire (particularly Lasombra-related), and some for Mage, Hunter, and Werewolf. I agree with all parts of your assessment.

 

[innerdude]

I mean, I knew it would be an unpopular opinion. (points to signpost on first thread).

I recognize now that the tone didn't come off quite in the flippant, tongue-in-cheek manner it was intended. (Was going for "two dudes in a coffee shop debating positions they don't really hold, but are having fun talking about it anyway", and ended up closer to "shrieking lemming".)

It's just always been my opinion that World of Darkness, particularly the early '90s incarnation of it, was infuriatingly smug, condescending, and pretentious in tone.

Like even to this day, if someone told me that Vampire: the Masquerade (any edition) was their favorite RPG of all time, I'd immediately conclude that our gaming tastes were incompatible.

 

[Lanefan]

(real talk though - converting between C and F is the WORST - add 32 then divide by 5/9ths or something? booo)

For weather temperatures, the cheater way is to start at 50F or 10C as those are equal, then every 5C variance is 9F and every 9F variance is 5C. So if it's 20C that's 50 + 18 (2x9) 68F. If it's -5C that's 50 - 27 (3x9) 23F.

Can't help you for cooking/baking temperatures.

 

[Older Beholder]

The final season of Game of Thrones was great.

 

[Reynard]

-The RPG hobby generally would be better off if everything White Wolf ever published instantly vanished from existence and no one could remember that it had ever existed. (Except for that one guy in the movie Yesterday who was also the only one who could remember the Beatles)

Oh, yeah, the hobby would be so much better even whiter, straighter and duder than it already is.