Unpopular opinions go here

[mamba]

It's generally bad to design a game specifically for new players. If the game is interesting and good, they'll figure it out.

what if it only is interesting once you figured it out…

 

[overgeeked]

I think history suggests that 4E's design was great in a lot of ways, but it wasn't what most D&D players were looking for at that time.

Absolutely. 4E was just ahead of its time, apparently.

I still think D&D 5E would be well served by having first-party modular systems in place to cover various styles of gaming. A rules light drama/story system, a medium-crunch base system (baseline 5E), and a rules-heavy tactical minis game a la 4E.

 

[Aldarc]

4e D&D is a legitimate expression of D&D that feels like D&D.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

If what we know as Pathfinder 1E had been what WotC produced for 4E and Paizo had been the upstart producing what we know of as 4E, it would be a big hit and remain in print today.

 

[Alzrius]

One D&D is not being made because of any particular impetus regarding the rules, the player base, or the upcoming anniversary of the game. It's being made entirely for economic reasons:

 

[mamba]

The metric system is infinitely superior to the imperial system.

oh, you can measure its superiority, just not in the imperial system

 

[W'rkncacnter]

oh, you can measure its superiority, just not in the imperial system

 

[MGibster]

Hmm. Their use of Ares was terrible but I have a hard time seeing Diana pushing her way through no man's land without getting emotional. And the stuff on Themiscyra works extremely well.

I didn't care for the CGI fest that was the battle against Nigel McBritishface, but otherwise I enjoyed the movie more than I did Superman.

 

[billd91]

If what we know as Pathfinder 1E had been what WotC produced for 4E and Paizo had been the upstart producing what we know of as 4E, it would be a big hit and remain in print today.

That really would be a weird alternate universe since Paizo partly justified sticking with 3.5's chassis because they didn't think they could tell the stories they wanted to with 4e. It took them a decade to come around to the idea that maybe they could.

...maybe...

However, and I stress that my sample size is still small, having picked up and read some of the PF2 modules and APs, I'm not convinced they were wrong in their initial assessment. I very much don't feel they are the same or as good as they used to be in the PF1 days.

 

[mamba]

I don't think I'm using any house rules for either game currently

oh, then I misunderstood the “When you have to have a 20-page stack of house rules” part…