D&D (2024) Are you going to buy the new 2024 D&D Core Books

[Ruin Explorer]

I would assume it'll be just like accesing Volo's and Tome of Foes. If you still have them, they're there -- labelled "LEGACY" -- but they're not selling any more copies.

Yeah I just don't think they can get away with not selling more copies whilst also trying to tell people "We're not taking anything away!". I don't think people will stand for it. I do think they may make it harder to buy new copies, but when someone tries to buy a 2014 PHB so they can play a Half-Elf or a Bard that's not all weird and messed-up (like I can almost guarantee the 2024 ones will be, given they've abandoned a key part of how they were reworking them), and is just told "No" by Beyond, that'll make a lot of people real mad.

Whereas with Volo's/Mordenkainen they got away with it because they essentially offered a "better value" product, and retained all the races (and possibly all the monsters? I forget), just losing Volo's questionable hot takes, and indeed most of the races got slightly upgraded overall.

 

[mamba]

Assuming 2014 data remains on DNDB, there is even less incentive for folks to "upgrade." Now, if going forward they retire the 2014 core, will that create a 5E schism?

I assume it follows the way of Volo. Whoever bought it still has it, no one new can buy it.

 

[Horwath]

In other words, get the PDF first and read it. If you like what you see in the PDF, then you buy the book.

Or find one poor sucker that bought it before you and borrow it for a day

 

[Vael]

Getting Halfling art that doesn't freak me out is almost reason enough for a new PHB.

 

[mamba]

It wasn't a plus with DND Next to 5E, I'd suggest. Most of the sudden changes and divergences were stuff that's poorly or mediocrely regarded. But I guess it could be different this time.

I was thinking of Level Up or ToV to 5e 2024, not 2024 playtest to whatever gets released. To OP was comparing LU and 2024.

 

[mamba]

That's what I meant by "retire." If you own it you get to keep using it, but they don't offer it anymore. Combine that with the importance they are placing on the digital platform, it is "stealth" forced upgrading.

not really, as you can share your book with others

 

[mamba]

It feels like because a few things have been pushed back (things that people couldn’t agree on) spell lists, standardized class progression levels etc that all the other good stuff we’ve been talking about for 6 months has been forgotten. I don’t really get it.

Maybe those things are more important to some than the little tweaks the playtest is now obsessing over. It's like discussing the shade of lipstick to put on the pig for 6 months....

 

[TheSword]

I think there will be an interplay between Hard copies, Online rules sets (Beyond or compendiums like Roll20), Adventure/Campaign Books, Settings and VTTs.

My hope and what I feel we need is that in 5 years if 5e truly is an evergreen system we’ll see a beautiful melange of all these things from different times and styles free mixing and fizzing off new ideas.

If you like the weapon rules from 5.2 you’ll use those, or you’ll use the advanced version from The Sword’s Bumper Book of Swords. Using the campaign book Out of the Abyss that you never got to play on the new VTT.

I really hope that when people of developing things they look at how it can slot into the greater whole and not how they can make their independent spin off version.

 

[TheSword]

Maybe those things are more important to some than the little tweaks the playtest is now obsessing over. It's like discussing the shade of lipstick to put on the pig for 6 months....

Spell lists is really a deal breaker for people? All subclasses at 3rd is really a deal breaker? I’m struggling to see how these things impact so substantially? Sure they were interesting… but groundbreaking?

 

[mamba]

Spell lists is really a deal breaker for people? All subclasses at 3rd is really a deal breaker? I’m struggling to see how these things impact so substantially? They were interesting but groundbreaking?

you already said you don't get it, this is more of that...

Cannot really speak for anyone but me, but all the big changes I was really looking forward to have been dropped. If I had to put my excitement for what is left on the scales to compare to my disappointment over what was lost, the disappointment wins out.