D&D General What does the mundane high level fighter look like? [+]

[Oofta]

When it comes to minions, the mixed-level party was probably the biggest issue. I ran a game with, IIRC, 10th level PCs supporting defense of the town. The town had it's own guards and using the conventions of 4E I normally would have been using minions for the amassed horde. But I couldn't because then those low level guards would have been 1-shotting monsters that should have been a significant threat.

There are many ways to handle monsters that are significantly lower level than the PCs, in 5E the standard is to set them up as mobs. I greatly prefer the 5E approach.

 

[Gammadoodler]

Thats not D&D, certainly not 5e.

This is one of those great fallbacks in these threads. Not usually a lot of evidence given for it. Seems consistent so far.

This thread has been interesting in that Conan also seems to have gotten lumped into "not D&D" as well. Or at least his monsters are not 5e monsters.

 

[Baron Opal II]

Meanwhile, as someone on the opposite side of the fence I have had people tell me on a related thread that I shouldn't be posting.

I'm sorry to hear that.

 

[Scribe]

The vast majority don't even play high levels. Why do they have a say in something they wont interact with to the detriment of us who want to kill a den of dirty evil vampire scum?

They dont. Snap your fingers and those Vamps are 1HP a piece. None of us can stop you.

 

[Oofta]

I'm sorry to hear that.

Meh. In hind-sight maybe I should have reported it but I don't let forum posts bother me much.

 

[Oofta]

That seems like arbitrary desires.

Like you want the the fighter to be cool. Chopping up 2 thugs in one turn is both cool and fightery.

If the rules don't allow it, then the rules are wrong. There I said it.

I wanna be Blade. Blade killed a dozen vampires in a minute with his sword and bare hands.
Be like Blade. Be cool.

Which just continues the "it works this way in some fiction and I've decided that the enemy has too many HP to be killed easily by a fighter with one blow in D&D so therefore D&D fighters are terrible" strawman.

If a core design of a system doesn't work for you, I suggest you are not playing the right game.

 

[Minigiant]

They dont. Snap your fingers and those Vamps are 1HP a piece. None of us can stop you.

10 HP. so weapon choice matters.

 

[Scribe]

10 HP. so weapon choice matters.

No fair, I shouldnt have to be tied to a specific weapon, if I want to do it with a 1-inch punch, thats my choice because its cool!

 

[Oofta]

The vast majority don't even play high levels. Why do they have a say in something they wont interact with to the detriment of us who want to kill a den of dirty evil vampire scum?

They can. It's just not going to be using the exact, very specific imagery you use with the creatures you are using for the enemy.

 

[Minigiant]

Which just continues the "it works this way in some fiction and I've decided that the enemy has too many HP to be killed easily by a fighter with one blow in D&D so therefore D&D fighters are terrible" strawman.

If a core design of a system doesn't work for you, I suggest you are not playing the right game.

No buddy. I've said it now 4 times.

The problem isn't fighter.

It's WOTC being lazy with Constitution and making as an HP Inflation device to make the stat matter.

+CON mod to HP was a mistake.

There are many way to make CON than inflating HP. Only WOTC Era D&D does this.