D&D (2024) Playtest 8 Spell Discussion
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James Gasik
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Oh it's simply because they can learn new spells, though they need to both say the correct words and use the correct wand motions to cast them (unless they're really skilled and can perform wandless magic).This confuses me.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Yeah. They have to learn the motions and words like wizards, not sorcerers, but they don't have books or memorization after that. Or slots. They can pretty much cast magic forever it seems like.
potterverse wizards get their magic from their bloodlines and are stronger based on talent not intelligence. Intelligence just allows you to know how to cast spells.
But only the spells you "know" aka your spells known can you do the motions and chant without screwing up. And for higher magic, you have to be more attune to the spell to do it correctly (hence why 99% of potterverse wizards suck at fighting. You need to like combat, abuse, killing, or an element that can be offensively used to get good at any of the good combat spells)
Yaarel
🇮🇱 🇺🇦 He-Mage
The Potterverse employs V and F. Possibly S if maneuvering the F properly counts.
Wizards have spellbooks. But learning new spells seems difficult, so most rely on the spells that they already know.
They convert spell slots into spell points, and keep casting til exhausting.
The Wizards have a choice of casting ability: Charisma (Harry), Intelligence (Hermione).
Possibly, Intelligence gains more spells known, and Charisma casts them powerfully.
If I understand correctly, there are "muggles" who have an aptitude for wizardry.
Wizards have spellbooks. But learning new spells seems difficult, so most rely on the spells that they already know.
They convert spell slots into spell points, and keep casting til exhausting.
The Wizards have a choice of casting ability: Charisma (Harry), Intelligence (Hermione).
Possibly, Intelligence gains more spells known, and Charisma casts them powerfully.
If I understand correctly, there are "muggles" who have an aptitude for wizardry.
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Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Both of these are wrong.
Magic is magic. The family bloodlines are just like family clans. If you've read the books or watched the movies, then you see just how important intelligence is. Hermione isn't the most talented witch for her bloodline. Harry is also talented at certain things based on his interest and ability to understand them, but really sucky at things he just can't understand.
Which is all of them if you spend the time to learn them and add them to your book. Some are too high level for you, though, so you need to master lower level spells first.
Nothing is attuned. It's entirely how smart you are and your ability to remember the words(verbal D&D wizardry) and ability to learn the motions(somatic D&D wizardry), while using a wand(D&D focus).
James Gasik
We don't talk about Pun-Pun
Pretty much, yeah. There's no cost to casting spells, and while I guess you could get tired after awhile, any Wizard combat is going to involve tons of debuffs and damaging spells flying around like crazy. In this respect HP Wizards are absolutely bonkers compared to their D&D counterparts. Technically creating new spells is risky and dangerous, but when you have centuries of spells to draw upon, the only real limitation is your ability to learn and remember the darned things.
James Gasik
We don't talk about Pun-Pun
Although Hermione proves you can be a very powerful Wizard without having any bloodline whatsoever.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
And very clearly due to her intelligence and ability to learn.
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