Star Wars: The Acolyte starts June 4


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After two episodes of The Acolyte..... One question remains..... Has there ever been a smart Jedi? Ok, one more.... They are so stupid, how did they ever do their job?
 



Kaodi said:
I think my simple, spoiler free comment on the first two episodes is, "Too soon." And once you see it you may understand why.
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Having seen them I am absolutely none the wiser as to the meaning of your comment, I'm afraid.

I would say based on these two episodes, so far The Acolyte is considerably better than The Mandalorian or Ahsoka, like an obvious step up in quality in pretty much all regards. It's no Andor but we gotta stop comparing things to Andor because Andor exceeded the quality cap, it was like a 12/10. It's better than any of Filoni or Favreau's recent attempts, that's the main thing.

It's High Republic set and the vibes are thus predictably between the Prequels and Knights of the Old Republic. And it's a lot of fun with a strong cast, an intriguing plot, great fights (like seriously), a lot of style, and importantly after so much of Filoni and Favreau screwing this up, and even Andor being on the slow side - it's WELL PACED. Bloody hell! I'd forgotten Star Wars stuff even could be well-paced! I haven't felt like it's wasting my time nor been basically tapping my foot. Might feel like I'm damning it with faint praise, but that's not really fair - I just want to see more of it.

Also pleased it's not being very indulgent with fan service/lore callbacks, again very unlike Filoni/Favreau.

Zaukrie said:
After two episodes of The Acolyte..... One question remains..... Has there ever been a smart Jedi? Ok, one more.... They are so stupid, how did they ever do their job?
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In the High Republic era? Not really, I'm afraid. There are very few smart Jedi, because of a lot of factors, particularly becoming overly into their own philosophy (vanishing up their own bums to some extent) and affected by politics (internal and external). Also the smart Jedi often get into serious scrapes that they don't always get out of.

How do they do their job? BADLY! Which is what gradually leads to the Sith coming back and so on.

As to how did they ever? They weren't always like this.

This is immediately from the High Republic novels, note, it's a major theme. A lot of these Jedi are brave, and self-sacrificing, and extremely committed to the values of the force. But they're broadly "not very smart". They're cultivating depth of thought and long-term planning, they're cultivating stuff like having absolute no attachments and becoming one with the Force (in a more achieving nirvana kind of sense). They're also restrictive, bossy, narrow-minded, and generally less tolerant than they should be of Jedi who don't follow a very narrow and specific path, no matter how clearly light-side they are.
 

Despite my annoyance with the Jedi, again, I mostly liked the show. I think. The fights are amazing.

Where did the prisoner ship come from? Still seem to be in mostly instant travel too, which, I guess I just need to get over.
 

Ruin Explorer said:
Having seen them I am absolutely none the wiser as to the meaning of your comment, I'm afraid.
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Twins. It's too soon to have force using twins be the main characters in a Star Wars project again. Especially force using twins that were "raised apart without knowledge of one another" .
 


Ruin Explorer said:
Having seen them I am absolutely none the wiser as to the meaning of your comment, I'm afraid.

I would say based on these two episodes, so far The Acolyte is considerably better than The Mandalorian or Ahsoka, like an obvious step up in quality in pretty much all regards. It's no Andor but we gotta stop comparing things to Andor because Andor exceeded the quality cap, it was like a 12/10. It's better than any of Filoni or Favreau's recent attempts, that's the main thing.

It's High Republic set and the vibes are thus predictably between the Prequels and Knights of the Old Republic. And it's a lot of fun with a strong cast, an intriguing plot, great fights (like seriously), a lot of style, and importantly after so much of Filoni and Favreau screwing this up, and even Andor being on the slow side - it's WELL PACED. Bloody hell! I'd forgotten Star Wars stuff even could be well-paced! I haven't felt like it's wasting my time nor been basically tapping my foot. Might feel like I'm damning it with faint praise, but that's not really fair - I just want to see more of it.

Also pleased it's not being very indulgent with fan service/lore callbacks, again very unlike Filoni/Favreau.


In the High Republic era? Not really, I'm afraid. There are very few smart Jedi, because of a lot of factors, particularly becoming overly into their own philosophy (vanishing up their own bums to some extent) and affected by politics (internal and external). Also the smart Jedi often get into serious scrapes that they don't always get out of.

How do they do their job? BADLY! Which is what gradually leads to the Sith coming back and so on.

As to how did they ever? They weren't always like this.

This is immediately from the High Republic novels, note, it's a major theme. A lot of these Jedi are brave, and self-sacrificing, and extremely committed to the values of the force. But they're broadly "not very smart". They're cultivating depth of thought and long-term planning, they're cultivating stuff like having absolute no attachments and becoming one with the Force (in a more achieving nirvana kind of sense). They're also restrictive, bossy, narrow-minded, and generally less tolerant than they should be of Jedi who don't follow a very narrow and specific path, no matter how clearly light-side they are.
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It's better than Andor so far imho at least vs it's first 2 episodes. Andors first 3 episodes were kinda boring.

Minor nitpicks around some of the pacing. I liked the twist as well.

Action scenes were really good.
 

MarkB said:
41 years is too soon? Or are you thinking of someone other than Luke and Leia?
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I mean technically in Legends there were Jaina and Jacen Solo too, though that made some sense because multiple births do run in families. And this trope of having siblings that look alike is also pretty well represented by the Clone Army. But I really do not think there have been enough screen projects to rehash this angle. How many non-Force sensitive twins have we had? And add on top of that this is the first screen project for a new era. And they go back to Force twins.
 

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