D&D (2024) Wizards of the Coast Backtracks on D&D Beyond and 2014 Content

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Wizards of the Coast posted an overnight update stating that they are not going forward with previously released plans to require those wishing to use some 2014 content on D&D Beyond to use the Homebrew function to manually enter it. Instead, all the content including spells and magic items will be included. From the update:


Last week we released a Changelog detailing how players would experience the 2024 Core Rulebooks on D&D Beyond. We heard your feedback loud and clear and thank you for speaking up.

Our excitement around the 2024 Core Rulebooks led us to view these planned updates as welcome improvements and free upgrades to existing content. We misjudged the impact of this change, and we agree that you should be free to choose your own way to play. Taking your feedback to heart, here’s what we’re going to do:

Players who only have access to the 2014 Player’s Handbook will maintain their character options, spells, and magical items in their character sheets. Players with access to the 2024 and 2014 digital Player’s Handbooks can select from both sources when creating new characters. Players will not need to rely on Homebrew to use their 2014 player options, including spells and magic items, as recommended in previous changelogs.

Please Note:

Players will continue to have access to their free, shared, and purchased items on D&D Beyond, with the ability to use previously acquired player options when creating characters and using character sheets.

We are not changing players’ current character sheets, except for relabeling and renaming. Examples include Races to Species, Inspiration to Heroic Inspiration, and Cast Spell to Magic.

We’re dedicated to making D&D Beyond the ultimate digital toolset for Dungeons & Dragons, continuously enhancing the platform to ensure you can create, customize, and play your game just as you envision it. From your first one-shot to multi-year campaigns and everything in between, we're grateful to be on this journey with you.

- The D&D Studio
 

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Darryl Mott

Darryl Mott

wasn’t what I was asking, not my problem.

Consider it effort to properly roll out 2024, because that is why you now need it, so make the 2024 sales pay for it. Consider it the cost of doing business and let the subscriptions pay for it. It does not need to be assigned to the 2014 sales you had three years ago, that is just an excuse
It was what you were asking... it's manpower that at any cost is too much because the work doesn't generate revenue. Never said it was your problem... what is though, is not understanding how subscription services work if you believe any of this is owed to you or you own what you bought.
 

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So what have they done? I asked above because I don't pay that much attention and thought maybe I had forgotten something. Other than the reversed OGL proposal and now this, what "crap" have they pulled over the past two years? They made a mistake with the hadozee if you want to include that but to me that was more of a cultural ignorance issue and a copy/paste error with lack of editorial review.



There is no way they can force anyone to buy anything. Unlike Apple they can't send out a software update that causes your system to degrade. Depending on decisions they make I may reevaluate whether DDB is worth it, but that's my choice.
I think your missunderstanding. There is no "force" to buy. Its increasing friction and making it painful NOT to buy. With the spell thing, you cuold always open the pdfs and see the 5.0 spells, so they weren't "removing" them. Just making it a pita to not upgrade.
Same thing, wizards will continue to find ways to add friction to people who choose not to upgrade.
 


I think your missunderstanding. There is no "force" to buy. Its increasing friction and making it painful NOT to buy. With the spell thing, you cuold always open the pdfs and see the 5.0 spells, so they weren't "removing" them. Just making it a pita to not upgrade.
Same thing, wizards will continue to find ways to add friction to people who choose not to upgrade.

So what you're saying is that as WotC evolves the game, those things left behind, changed or updated won't be supported moving forward... like every other piece of software/hardware out there...I am totally lost on how this isn't expected. Does Playstation still support the PS 1? Does Microsoft support Windows '98. This isn't defending a corporation it's going into a sub service with eyes wide open and understanding exactly what is being purchased.
 

It was what you were asking... it's manpower that at any cost is too much because the work doesn't generate revenue
no, I was asking how much effort it is, not how you account for the expense. Also, I even answered that part.

Never said it was your problem... what is though, is not understanding how subscription services work if you believe any of this is owed to you or you own what you bought.
yes, it is owed to ‘me’, because ‘I’ am subscribing. Turns out WotC agreed with it once that correlation was made clear to them too. Maybe it is you who does not understand subscription services, because ‘I’ got what ‘I’ wanted…
 


still not seeing the correlation to the effort involved in the change, while there clearly is one to the level of public interest in the issue
It's bad political news on a Friday afternoon.

You put out info that you want people to see at a time that they're more likely to see it.

A Sunday night release means that they were up all weekend and now they are dog tired and have no guarantee they'll be awake on Monday morning so put it out now. On Sunday night.
 

So what you're saying is that as WotC evolves the game, those things left behind, changed or updated won't be supported moving forward... like every other piece of software/hardware out there...I am totally lost on how this isn't expected. Does Playstation still support the PS 1? Does Microsoft support Windows '98. This isn't defending a corporation it's going into a sub service with eyes wide open and understanding exactly what is being purchased.
Tell me you don't support wizards screwing all 5.0 players without saying so. Why do you apologize for wizards?
 


A Sunday night release means that they were up all weekend and now they are dog tired and have no guarantee they'll be awake on Monday morning so put it out now. On Sunday night.
all of this speaks to its urgency, not its large effort, not sure where you get the correlation to effort from
 

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