D&D (2024) How D&D Beyond Will Handle Access To 2014 Rules

D&D Beyond has announced how the transition to the new 2024 edition will work on the platform, and how legacy access to the 2014 version of D&D will be implemented.

• You will still be able to access the 2014 Basic Rules and core rulebooks.
• You will still be able to make characters using the 2014 Player's Handbook.
• Existing home-brew content will not be impacted.
• These 2014 rules will be accessible and will be marked with a 'legacy' badge: classes, subclasses, species, backgrounds, feats, monsters.
• Tooltips will reflect the 2024 rules.
• Monster stat blocks will be updated to 2024.
• There will be terminology changes (Heroic Inspiration, Species, etc.)

D&D (2024) - Wizards of the Coast Backtracks on D&D Beyond and 2014 Content

Wizards of the Coast posted an overnight update stating that they are not going forward with previously released plans to require those wishing to use some 2014 content on D&D Beyond to use the Homebrew function to manually enter it. Instead, all the content including spells and magic items will...

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[Micah Sweet]

I didn't engage. You quoted me, remember?

I meant engage in general, but fair enough.

 

[Chaosmancer]

I don't recall anyone but you referring to Level Up as "DnD 5e with a bunch of houserules". It's diminutive.

They made the claim itself

They say, "the 5e ruleset", which is freely available for use. They do NOT say "Dungeons & Dragons". I am not making the assumption you are making that those are the same thing.

The 5e ruleset of what? Is it the 5e ruleset for Madden Football? Is it the 5e Ruleset for Monopoly? Maybe the 5e ruleset for Midwestern Gardening?

Or is it the 5e ruleset of DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS?

You keep trying to act like the minute it hit the SRD it was no longer Dungeons and Dragons, which is utterly bizarre to me. These aren't the rules for Pathfinder, Warhammer 40K, Savage Worlds, GURPS, Traveler, or any of a dozen smaller titles that only those deep in the industry know about. These are the rules for Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition. Those are the rules they are referring to. Just because those rules were put in a legal document that states "you can use these and sell a product made off of them and we won't sue you into oblivion for theft" doesn't mean that those are no longer the rules for Dungeons and Dragons.

 

[Chaosmancer]

a standard does not have to come first, D&D is still an implementation of the 5e standard

No, it is at the very least the standard itself. And being the standard is very different from being based on the standard and borrowing from it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

They made the claim itself



The 5e ruleset of what? Is it the 5e ruleset for Madden Football? Is it the 5e Ruleset for Monopoly? Maybe the 5e ruleset for Midwestern Gardening?

Or is it the 5e ruleset of DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS?

You keep trying to act like the minute it hit the SRD it was no longer Dungeons and Dragons, which is utterly bizarre to me. These aren't the rules for Pathfinder, Warhammer 40K, Savage Worlds, GURPS, Traveler, or any of a dozen smaller titles that only those deep in the industry know about. These are the rules for Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition. Those are the rules they are referring to. Just because those rules were put in a legal document that states "you can use these and sell a product made off of them and we won't sue you into oblivion for theft" doesn't mean that those are no longer the rules for Dungeons and Dragons.

The minute it hit the SRD it is no longer just Dungeons & Dragons. That's the truth.

 

[Chaosmancer]

that comment was in response to WotC moving to a 6e, not for 2024. I am not expecting many people to move off 2014 except to move onto 2024, but that is because the two are compatible, if they were not and 2014 were the end of the road for that line, things would be different

Okay, well then if you want to look at 2035 and guess at what happens with a 6e then... then I would say that Tales of the Valiant and Level Up will absolutely not get a bump in adopters from that change. Because people who would stick to 2014 DnD 5e.... are going to stick to the rules they have, not suddenly go buying a different ruleset for the game they have.

 

[Chaosmancer]

So what? Other games are out there, even if they're not talked about enough to satisfy my personal desire to engage in community discussion.

So the issue isn't overblown if it is true. It doesn't matter if the other games are out there, if there are not enough people interested in running them to bring in people to play.

 

[Chaosmancer]

I would accept this opinion more if I didn't know you were gung-ho for 5.5 anyway.

Bias goes both ways. Obviously I have a preference, and it affects how I think about things. So do you.

So because they made a game with customers like me in mind, people who really got deeper into DnD with 5e (my first succcessful campaign as a DM was run in 5e) then WoTC could not have made a game for their preferred customers?

 

[Chaosmancer]

The minute it hit the SRD it is no longer just Dungeons & Dragons. That's the truth.

No, that isn't the truth. Nothing changed with the rule set when it hit the SRD. What changed was that WoTC wouldn't sue you for copying their homework and selling it to the marketplace.

 

[Imaro]

I did not make a call either way, but I would not use their VTT as evidence, that is system agnostic (assuming it is…) because of houserules, not because they expect people to use it for PF2

Reps from WotC during the D&D direct, point blank said they want people to play whatever game they want to on the vtt.

 

[Micah Sweet]

So the issue isn't overblown if it is true. It doesn't matter if the other games are out there, if there are not enough people interested in running them to bring in people to play.

I don't think that's true. Like I said, I like many games, and I'm confident I could find a group if I spent sometime on line looking for one. My wife went to a boardgames night she found online and in one night found three new players for my Level Up game. I'm on Discord for several games and all of them have looking for group forums that find groups.