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They are helping an Istari. I qualify that as important. Anyway, we will see next week. /going to bed. good night.
More precisely, the Istar is helping the hobbits become what they need to be to defeat Sauron.

But their story is relatively short, and is spread rather thin. It would have been better, I think, to approach it in the way Tolkien did, and devote whole episodes to each storyline, rather than cutting between them.
 

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That's flat out wrong. When I say that the writing in season 1 was garbage, it has nothing to do with the butchering of Middle Earth. Those are two separate issues. I'm talking about writing that Galadriel jumps off into the ocean hundreds of miles from land and expects to be able to swim to shore. I'm talking about writing a scene where a volcanic pyroclast like destroyed Pompei rolls over Galadriel and the humans and they almost all just shrug it off like it was nothing. All of them with the exceptions of Galadriel and Sauron should have been killed. I'm talking about writing in a few Numenorean ships that somehow have room for an entire army with horses and supplies for the army plus horses. Ships of Holding I guess.

There were dozens of examples of horrible writing like that.
And do you hold Raiders of the Lost Ark to the same standards of realism or geographical accuracy? It's a fantasy adventure, not a documentary (not that they are any more realistic in the Netflix age).

NB, that wasn't a pyroclastic flow, it was ashfall. And, whist many people in Pompeii (and particularly Herculaneum) were killed in pyroclastic flows, the famous preserved bodies where asphyxiated then buried in ashfall, which lasted several days and was unpleasant, not instantly fatal. You should read Pliny the Younger's account. He would know, he was there.
 
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That's flat out wrong. When I say that the writing in season 1 was garbage, it has nothing to do with the butchering of Middle Earth. Those are two separate issues. I'm talking about writing that Galadriel jumps off into the ocean hundreds of miles from land and expects to be able to swim to shore. I'm talking about writing a scene where a volcanic pyroclast like destroyed Pompei rolls over Galadriel and the humans and they almost all just shrug it off like it was nothing. All of them with the exceptions of Galadriel and Sauron should have been killed. I'm talking about writing in a few Numenorean ships that somehow have room for an entire army with horses and supplies for the army plus horses. Ships of Holding I guess.

There were dozens of examples of horrible writing like that.
I have no problem with the swimming. If a 60 year old woman can swim a 100 miles in one go I have no problem with a powerful elf doing several times that.

Yeah I get the shot of the fiery ash flowing over Galadriel was indulgent. But it was one shot in the episode. It’s a cinematic indulgence where the laws of physics and the rule of cool intersect. My understanding was that most of the villagers don’t survive. Just the remenents.

I dont think they needed to let the pyroclastic flow engulf everyone it could have just been regular clouds of ash from the eruption falling on them but I guess they wanted the image. It’s just a visual representation.

Then again I think of all the times D&D encounters take part near lava yet players don’t get instantly broiled when they fly or jump over it. Did you have the same complaints when Frodo steps onto the promontory overlooking the caldera of Mount Doom despite those air temperature likely to be many hundreds of degrees centigrade? Tolkein did sometimes follow the rule of cool too.
 

You are thinking “what would I do?” not “what would the character do?” Galadriel spent the whole of season 1 learning that pursuing a personal vendetta against Sauron only plays into his hands. Galadriel and Elrond’s priority is saving Eregion. Unlike us they do not know Eregion cannot be saved.
Yep. God forbid that they let one of the wisest elves to ever live actually use some wisdom.
 

Excellent episode. The face of Elrond when he understands Durin will not show. Setting up perfectly the distrust between the two races.

I expect a full episode of Harfoots next week. Haters brace yourselves! LOL
The distrust began a few thousand years earlier when the dwarves murdered Thingol while attempting to steal his silmaril.
 

That's flat out wrong. When I say that the writing in season 1 was garbage, it has nothing to do with the butchering of Middle Earth. Those are two separate issues. I'm talking about writing that Galadriel jumps off into the ocean hundreds of miles from land and expects to be able to swim to shore. I'm talking about writing a scene where a volcanic pyroclast like destroyed Pompei rolls over Galadriel and the humans and they almost all just shrug it off like it was nothing. All of them with the exceptions of Galadriel and Sauron should have been killed. I'm talking about writing in a few Numenorean ships that somehow have room for an entire army with horses and supplies for the army plus horses. Ships of Holding I guess.

There were dozens of examples of horrible writing like that.

You forgot boring. Really really boring.

Fun can wash away many flaws.
 

That's flat out wrong. When I say that the writing in season 1 was garbage, it has nothing to do with the butchering of Middle Earth. Those are two separate issues. I'm talking about writing that Galadriel jumps off into the ocean hundreds of miles from land and expects to be able to swim to shore. I'm talking about writing a scene where a volcanic pyroclast like destroyed Pompei rolls over Galadriel and the humans and they almost all just shrug it off like it was nothing. All of them with the exceptions of Galadriel and Sauron should have been killed. I'm talking about writing in a few Numenorean ships that somehow have room for an entire army with horses and supplies for the army plus horses. Ships of Holding I guess.
These are certainly some of the more egregious challenges to any sense of verisimilitude which I think any good show requires. Instead, we are left with a show which quite obviously disregards physics in order to provide spectacle - at which it also fails. Contrivances drive the story forward, without any sense of consequence (physical, emotional, psychological) from prior states which have been demonstrated on screen - this even extends to dialogue, where characters frequently just talk past each other, without any sense of conversation, rifiing off of one word in a previous line of dialogue in order to create a false sense of logical exchange.
There were dozens of examples of horrible writing like that.
And I think this is the nub of it. It is the sheer density of these logical inconsistencies - stacked each upon the last - which sets RoP apart from anything I've ever before seen. The result is an edifice which lacks any kind of logical coherence.

Bumping into Sauron, and then Elendil while going for a swim across the Atlantic ocean - I mean, surely there are better ways to contrive these encounters?

Another good example from S1 is the Macguffin which turns the key which opens the gate which causes the water to rush down the channels which empties into the magma chamber which causes the volcano to explode. I mean...why? The answer, of course, is the spectacle of an exploding volcano - a momentary dopamine hit which disregards logic, physics, causality. Who and how and why this giant geological pinball machine exists is not addressed.

That, and the obsession with retconning aetiological stories, and the origins of motifs - "This is how Mordor came to be; this is why Gandalf said this to Merry; this is where mithril comes from'" etc.etc. etc.

Why build a tower wrapped in chains? So you can blow it up and it looks cool.

In the latest episode, the orcs use catapults to destroy a mountain so that it blocks a river so they can walk across its now-dry riverbed. Where did the water go? Don't know, but it's cool, right?

"Prepare for ground assault!"

Didn't see any AT-ATs, though.
 




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