D&D General The New York Times on D&D

[GothmogIV]

My original thought was, wow! D&D on the (virtual) front page of New York Times! We’ve come a long way since the early 80s is when I first learned to play!

 

[Bedrockgames]

I guess we'll never really know the depth of the naysayers, but when the new books sold more than anything else ever has it is an indicator that the 2024 release was well received. Some people didn't upgrade for a variety of reasons, from wanting to finish an existing campaign to not thinking the rule changes justified the cost of new books to not liking the general direction the changes to classes and feats are taking.

So I think the people who reject it because it talks about having a session 0 and discuss basics of how the game will be run or because they changed a label? It's probable that it's a minority.

A lot of people who are critical of the changes bought teh books and even play the edition. That is true any time there are changes (I remember people playing 2E and griping about the changes from 1E like the removal of the Assassin or Monk). I disagreed with most of the changes, but I still bought the new books.

 

[Bedrockgames]

As German I think doing away with race is not that bad though.
I mean we had "race laws" in a certain period of time... and I don't want to go into current politics so I leave it at that.

And I would have been subjected to those race laws (they would have classified me as a mischling). One side of my family came to the US fleeing that sort of persecution. But I can also understand D&D is talking about races the way lots of fantasy or science fiction does, not about human racial groups (i.e. an alien race of beings from the planet Neptari). One of the good things about D&D is it treats humans as all belonging to the same race. Agreed though this is not a topic to get into

 

[Lakesidefantasy]

I guess we'll never really know the depth of the naysayers, but when the new books sold more than anything else ever has it is an indicator that the 2024 release was well received. Some people didn't upgrade for a variety of reasons, from wanting to finish an existing campaign to not thinking the rule changes justified the cost of new books to not liking the general direction the changes to classes and feats are taking.

So I think the people who reject it because it talks about having a session 0 and discuss basics of how the game will be run or because they changed a label? It's probable that it's a minority.

I think a lot of people may have bought it because it is the 50th anniversary edition.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Melissa C. : “I tell them it’s like a game of make-believe, but the rules are what actually make it fun,” she said. “If you just win all the time and defeat every monster, that is not fun.”

David C. : “All the species are becoming humans with decorations,”

As one sided as the article seems to be, I can't say the 2 DMs above are wrong.

 

[Clint_L]

He’s had no relevance within the game for decades, and his only other purpose for being quoted is because he’s planted himself fully in the anti-DEI camp.

It’s a hit piece.

I’m strongly opposed to Rob Kuntz’s views but I wouldn’t call this a hit piece. The NYT does good journalism, and this article is covering a legitimate issue in the D&D community.

 

[dave2008]

Melissa C. : “I tell them it’s like a game of make-believe, but the rules are what actually make it fun,” she said. “If you just win all the time and defeat every monster, that is not fun.”

David C. : “All the species are becoming humans with decorations,”

As one sided as the article seems to be, I can't say the 2 DMs above are wrong.

I also can't say they are correct.

 

[dave2008]

I’m strongly opposed to Rob Kuntz’s views but I wouldn’t call this a hit piece. The NYT does good journalism, and this article is covering a legitimate issue in the D&D community.

It is an issue everywhere actually; however, I thought we had this discussion in the D&D community 6+ months ago. However, as others have pointed out, mainstream media lags specialist media.

 

[TiQuinn]

I’m strongly opposed to Rob Kuntz’s views but I wouldn’t call this a hit piece. The NYT does good journalism, and this article is covering a legitimate issue in the D&D community.

Sorry, don't agree with that at all.

 

[dave2008]

Sorry, don't agree with that at all.

Which part?