Dolemnwood Delayed Due To Tarrifs.

[Reynard]

FYI for those who backed this project (which looks super cool).

 

[Shawnster_P]

It DOES look cool. I backed, and have the most recent PDFs, although I don't follow it closely so I am not sure if it is the final version or not.

One thing that surprised me (a bit off topic I guess) is that the classes gain levels at different xp. Obviously this is an OSR thing, and this and shadowdark are the only OSR for things I've done (except for living through the original old stuff). Anyway, I'm not sure that dynamic is something I want to relive. I was curious what others thought about that.

As for the delay, they seem to be doing the right thing (our the only thing they can I suspect,).

 

[Morrus]

As for the delay, they seem to be doing the right thing (our the only thing they can I suspect,).

It’s basically what everybody is doing. There isn’t really any choice. We’re storing our US shipments from China in the UK warehouse until (if) it blows over.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

One thing that surprised me (a bit off topic I guess) is that the classes gain levels at different xp. Obviously this is an OSR thing, and this and shadowdark are the only OSR for things I've done (except for living through the original old stuff). Anyway, I'm not sure that dynamic is something I want to relive. I was curious what others thought about that.

Yeah, it goes back to TSR D&D. You can see it today in a variety of OSR games, including Castles & Crusades, OSE, OSRIC, Swords & Wizardry and Basic Fantasy, most of which explicitly emulate TSR D&D.

The theory is that player characters are balanced by total XP, not level. So a thief might be higher level than a magic-user, but they have comparable XP and they are, in theory, comparable characters.

This is probably an optimistic take by the designers in most cases and I think it's easier to balance the classes -- if that's something the designer wants -- to do so by level instead. And once you've done that, there's no reason to have varying XP tables.

I've done it both ways and as someone who does want my players' characters to be roughly comparable to one another, and who has seen how it feels for some players to have their characters be behind in level, balancing by level, with a unified XP chart, is the way I prefer.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Boy, the commenters on that Kickstarter update really don't know much about the state of American printing presses, do they?

 

[Bae'zel]

Was hoping that non-US backers would have been spared this nonsense, but I guess we're all stuck.

 

[Morrus]

Boy, the commenters on that Kickstarter update really don't know much about the state of American printing presses, do they?

Let me guess. “Why don’t you just trivially move your entire manufacturing and distribution base overnight? Preferably to a country which doesn’t have the manufacturing infrastructure, pls.”

 

[Shawnster_P]

Let me guess. “Why don’t you just trivially move your entire manufacturing and distribution base overnight? Preferably to a country which doesn’t have the manufacturing infrastructure, pls.”

Yeah that was it. It turned into a political show pretty fast. That's why I didn't mention it.

 

[schneeland]

Was hoping that non-US backers would have been spared this nonsense, but I guess we're all stuck.

I‘m sympathetic to their plight with the tariffs, but this is the one thing where I am a bit displeased - in their last update they made it sound like it was only a matter of weeks until everything has arrived at their European and UK warehouses. And it seems now that this was never realistic in the first place.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I‘m sympathetic to their plight with the tariffs, but this is the one thing where I am a bit displeased - in their last update they made it sound like it was only a matter of weeks until everything has arrived at their European and UK warehouses. And it seems now that this was never realistic in the first place.

Yeah, it sounds like they dilly-dallied longer than they should have and then got hit by the tariff bus.

I'm expecting the same thing to happen to Glumdark early next year. (I am not optimistic about the length of the tariff war.)