WotC Would you buy WotC products produced or enhanced with AI?

[Metroido]

And end up with something lesser? Then what would be the point of bothering in the first place?

You know the more you do something, the more you improve, right?

 

[Lanefan]

You know the more you do something, the more you improve, right?

Assuming you've some talent for it to begin with, yes.

If you don't, however, no amount of practice or training is going to give it to you.

 

[Azzy]

Assuming you've some talent for it to begin with, yes.

If you don't, however, no amount of practice or training is going to give it to you.

That's not true. It takes hard work.

 

[mamba]

Assuming you've some talent for it to begin with, yes.

If you don't, however, no amount of practice or training is going to give it to you.

no, even without talent you will improve, further than someone with talent and no training, just not as far as someone with talent and equal training

Do something for 10000 hours and you will be good at it, talent or not

 

[Lanefan]

That's not true. It takes hard work.

Hard work plus natural talent usually leads to someone good-to-great at it, whatever "it" is.

Hard work alone usually leads to someone barely competent, at best.

Natural talent alone can lead to almost anything.

 

[The Firebird]

It only provides value to you because you haven't actually looked at enough real art. Good Art. Genuine Art. Made by human beings. Thanks to the Internet you have the whole of Art History at your fingertips. You can look at more art than Michelangelo or Leonardo da Vinci ever saw in their lifetimes, and you're squandering by looking at the emptiness of AI instead. AI is about as deep as a frisbee.

You have the richness of all the great art and illustration that's come before. It's inexhaustible. You're wasting it.

You have a veritable treasure trove of art and illustration before you. What's the old phrase? "Like pearls before swine."

I was thinking of the use of LLMs to generate code for a variety of projects. Indeed my posts have all been about LLMs, not image generation.

I've not used image generation at all. But from my understanding, if you think the point of image generators is to replicate Michelangelo you're the one missing something.

 

[Faolyn]

My wallet isn't on the internet.

And?

Just because you decided that something should work a particular way doesn't mean it actually does.

And end up with something lesser? Then what would be the point of bothering in the first place?

Because art is about the imperfections as much as the perfections.

 

[Faolyn]

Assuming you've some talent for it to begin with, yes.

If you don't, however, no amount of practice or training is going to give it to you.

It gives you skill. I had a talent for art as a young child. I still had to learn artistic techniques--and I have to continually practice those techniques.

Art or writing skill isn't something you have or don't have. It's literally something you learn. And there's more than one type of art! As @Metroido said, go look at different art styles. You may not be good at one but you may prove to be great at another. If you practice.

 

[Azzy]

Hard work plus natural talent usually leads to someone good-to-great at it, whatever "it" is.

Hard work alone usually leads to someone barely competent, at best.

That's pure BS. It's the sort of thing that someone who doesn't get instant success and refuses to put in the time and effort would say.

Natural talent alone can lead to almost anything.

No, it can't. It only gets you a head start, but without dedication and practice even a talented person will never achieve much.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

I still don't get the argument.

I readily accept that some humans are doing a better job at making a drawing for me than the current AI.
On the other hand, why would I need that high-quality level?

I am all the time settling for an average-quality, cost-effective, and especially quicker solution.

• I am eating at regular neighbourhood restaurants more often than I eat at 3-starred Michelin restaurants (cheaper, easier to get to) ;
• I am only having a few bespoke suits (It takes 2 monthes to have a shirt done by a shirtmaker, often 3+ months to get pants and jacket tailor-made, while one can get one off-the-shelf readily for a tenth of the price) ;
• My friends and I are playing RPGs together despite none of us being Matt Mercer (less expensive to take turn GM'ing than to hire him)...

I don't think I find value in restaurants, ready-to-wear clothes and amateur GMing because I haven't seen enough of Gagnaire, Cifonelli, Charvet and Mercer... There is no reason to reach for the best available solution in ANY field, unless you're rich and especially interested in having the best thing. LLMs have an advantage in producing their result, even if it rates lower than the best humanity can do, much less expensively and much more quickly that it would take a human. Much like industrial sauces and machine-made clothes: they are an OK-ish alternative, most of the time satisfying even if not great.

If I need an elf picture to illustrate my character sheet or campaign journal, I don't need to hire John Howe. While it's obviously an option, I'll have an inferior, but usable, result before the contract with him would be drafted. Saying that no value can be derived except by having the best solution is obviously false.