WotC Would you buy WotC products produced or enhanced with AI?

[MoonSong]

I'd say that control is better than through stock sites or drifting through freely licensed existing art.

Only so much.

I am not sure I get it, but if it's correcting little defect in an artwork, there are tool that are doing great in this domain. Can you describe your needs?

There is a step between the inked -or even just penciled- art and the actual shading/rendering. It is placing the raw color on the canvas so that you can select and mask more easily, and of course have the base color. This part is time consuming and prone to errors -many times this is done by one or more assistants-.

 

[Charlaquin]

This is just not true. I have read through many, many psych-ed reports in my decades as a teacher, as well as doing a required minor in psychology with a focus on adolescent development. It is just not true that brains are all an equal tabula rasa with identical capacities.

That is not even remotely what I said.

 

[Metroido]

Sure, if you use a definition of theft that is wide enough to remove the word of its meaning, then yes, of course. I won't argue your definition, but having such a wide definition of theft makes artists thieves because they took inspiration from other people and learnt their techniques by observing how other people did. This make the discussion between us rather ineffective and I agree that we shouldn't continue it.

What AI does is nothing like how an artist learns to draw. If you had ever bothered to learn to draw yourself you would know that.

Forget even taking classes. Just skim through one of Andrew Loomis' instructional books, one of Gottfrird Bammes' books, and Scott Robertson's book "How to Draw" and seriously ask yourself if that is actually how you think AI is learning to draw. Be honest with yourself.

 

[Metroido]

You're indeed right when it comes to online models. I think for getting the best results, tools (like controlnets) are more effective for models that you can run at home from your computer (which requires some time investment). Usually online generators (including paid ones) offer few options above just prompting a few words. They emphasize ease of use over getting exactly one has in mind (I'd say that many users don't have something very specific in mind, just general).

Wow! You guys even have to use AI for posing instead of using a basic 3d modeling program like Poser or DAZ?

Jeezus.

You guys know actually making art can be fun, right?

 

[The Firebird]

Wow! You guys even have to use AI for posing instead of using a basic 3d modeling program like Poser or DAZ?

Jeezus.

You guys know actually making art can be fun, right?

Not everyone enjoys every hobby.

 

[Lanefan]

YouTube and other online video providers scrape videos they host. To protect art from scraping you have to keep it locked away from the world entirely.

Not entirely. You just have to keep it off the internet.

 

[Incenjucar]

Not entirely. You just have to keep it off the internet.

We all carry video cameras in our pockets and live in surveillance states.

 

[Metroido]

Not everyone enjoys every hobby.

That's where your disconnect is. For you this is just a "hobby." For some of us this is our livelihood, our way of life, and our very survival. The way some of you all are so dismissive of that is rather cruel, especially when you supposedly care about this so-called community.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

What AI does is nothing like how an artist learns to draw. If you had ever bothered to learn to draw yourself you would know that.

So, you do realize that different things need to be named by other names for a useful (or, actually, any) discussion to happen, since you're bothered when someone uses theft to describe being inspired by a piece of art without compensation. Much like I am saying with theft and AI training. We're making progress.

Note that I am not disputing your right to call AI training morally aborrhent. It's just not theft, nor it is jaywalking, embezzlement, or tax fraud.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Not entirely. You just have to keep it off the internet.

Right. Not only do the AI steal the artists' jobs, if the artist doesn't want to be complicit in this they need to stop displaying their artwork. And yeah, this is happening, I know a lot of people are these days reluctant to post their art online. Dead internet theory becomes more likely every day.