GOD RULES: Player's Guide (5e) Kickstarter Pre-Launch Page

[Upper_Krust]

I have seen both before.

...have you seen both within the same Kickstarter though?

So you have several tiers in the Kickstarter, but you also have add-ons (that often correspond to the tiers, but not always). I have noticed the add-ons can be to your pledge added after the kickstarter is over too.

If I just set Additional Copies of the books as Add-ons at a -£5 discount then that should cover it.

I think had I got a Slipcase option maybe such a Tier would have made sense.

But I guess I could have:

Sidereal Tier £60 = 2 Physical copies (1 of cover A, 1 of Cover B) save £5/$6.60!
Transcendental Tier = £80 3 Physical copies (1 of Cover A, 1 of Cover B and 1 of Cover C* ) save £10/$13.20!

*Artists Sketch version.

Artists Sketch Version cover.

Thinking of getting the Artist to do an original cover for the Artists Sketch version -

Any suggestions? ...Thor vs. Goku**?

**Sun Wukong I mean

 

[GreatestHonor]

Perhaps make it so you can choose which covers when buying multiple. People could choose B and C or A and C instead of just A and B or all three

 

[Upper_Krust]

Perhaps make it so you can choose which covers when buying multiple. People could choose B and C or A and C instead of just A and B or all three

That's what makes me think just having extra copies as Add-ons is the way to go. Rather than 4 new tiers of each configuration.

 

[GreatestHonor]

Maybe a sin

That's what makes me think just having extra copies as Add-ons is the way to go. Rather than 4 new tiers of each configuration.

I think a single tier where you get two covers of your choice would work

 

[dave2008]

...have you seen both within the same Kickstarter though?

Yes, many times. The EnWorld Kickstarters almost always do this, but I have seen it in a lot of others as well. However, my frequency of backing Kickstarters has gone down a lot the past 2 years.

 

[Morrus]

...have you seen both within the same Kickstarter though?

I did say I was bowing out, but you've been part of this community for so long, and I can't help but help because I want you to succeed. Though the AI thing is going to scupper you, but I've already told you that and you're going ahead anyway. So take as you will.

So--every click halves your retention. You're looking at reducing clicks. Every single time you ask somebody to click on something to do something, you lose 50% of your audience. Each time. Another click, you're done to 25%. Another, and you're at 12%. The online retail goal is "person sees thing, clicks once, has bought". Even Amazon has achieved that, but they have it down to two clicks.

So add-ons are fine. But they are an additional click, whereas a pre-prepared reward tier saves a click. Add-ons are the last ditch hope for a final bump; pledge tiers are the front line PICK ME! options. It will take you 5 minutes to set up the pledge tier, and one pledge will pay for that time. There's literally no reason not to do it.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Maybe a sin

I think a single tier where you get two covers of your choice would work

Thing is, each book is a different price. So I can't exactly have a one tier fits all.

My reasoning for grouping the two colour Covers was those books will have some AI art. So those totally against AI art are more likely to buy the Artist Sketch Edition. Whereas completionists might snap up all three covers.

Hence:

Sidereal Tier = Both Colour Covers...let's say £60 (saving £5)
Transcendental Tier = All three books...lets say £80 (saving £10)

Of course the interior art of Covers A & B is totally identical, whereas the Artists Sketch Edition version is all pencil artwork. So some people might want the two different interior versions.

 

[Upper_Krust]

I did say I was bowing out, but you've been part of this community for so long, and I can't help but help because I want you to succeed.

I appreciate the support Morrus. Been on here 25 years now, virtually half my life; I'm sure you're in much the same boat. Time flies doesn't it!

Though the AI thing is going to scupper you, but I've already told you that and you're going ahead anyway. So take as you will.

Well as noted:

1. I will have a completely AI free Artists Sketch Edition version (not shown on the Pre-Launch page yet because the new Sketch cover is still being planned).
2. I will have Stretch Goals to replace AI art.
3. Multiple artists earned many thousands of dollars contributing art to this book (and the Epic Bestiary to follow).
4. Any AI art used has been repainted/reworked (by a real artist) from 1-30+ hours.

This is not some lazy "just slapped some AI art down" effort, nor was the book ever planned to have any AI art. I just ran out of money and I know Epic tier stuff is niche enough that the Kickstarter probably won't make enough to even cover the existing art costs let alone the gaps filled by AI.

So--every click halves your retention. You're looking at reducing clicks. Every single time you ask somebody to click on something to do something, you lose 50% of your audience. Each time. Another click, you're done to 25%. Another, and you're at 12%. The online retail goal is "person sees thing, clicks once, has bought". Even Amazon has achieved that, but they have it down to two clicks.

So add-ons are fine. But they are an additional click, whereas a pre-prepared reward tier saves a click. Add-ons are the last ditch hope for a final bump; pledge tiers are the front line PICK ME! options. It will take you 5 minutes to set up the pledge tier, and one pledge will pay for that time. There's literally no reason not to do it.

Okay thanks for the heads up - so do as much in the Pledge Tiers as possible.

What is the typical price drop for a Retailer incentive tier? Five books for the Price of...? Four? Three?

 

[Morrus]

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What is the typical price drop for a Retailer incentive tier? Five books for the Price of...? Four? Three?

50% off, same as you would sell into distribution. Usually with an order of, say, 5 books.

 

[Upper_Krust]

50% off, same as you would sell into distribution. Usually with an order of, say, 5 books.

Cheers.

Was thinking...

5 books (Cover A) + 1 book (Cover B) + 1 Book (Cover C) + PDFs + Miniature STLs = £125 (save £100).