Kickstarter [Kobold Press] Night Hunters: Gothic Horror for TOV and 5E D&D IS LIVE!

[Marc Radle]

Why is this KS charging extra for the PDFs? That feels weird.

Can you elaborate?

The PDFs are included in the bundles. There is a Print-Only tier for those who don't want PDFs

 

[Reynard]

Can you elaborate?

The PDFs are included in the bundles. There is a Print-Only tier for those who don't want PDFs

Unless I misread it, the no-PDFs for the 2 books is $20 cheaper than the 2 books with PDFs.

 

[Marc Radle]

Correct, the PDFs are available to buy separately of course, and heavily discounted in the bundles with print items.
And the preview PDF is of course100% free.
The actual 400 page, fully illustrated PDFs are not free.

 

[Koloth]

Thanks for the notice. Backed for the tarot deck and the adventure PDF + maps. None of my current groups play 5e but we are pretty good at modifying things to fit whatever system we are using at the time.

 

[Reynard]

Correct, the PDFs are available to buy separately of course, and heavily discounted in the bundles with print items.
And the preview PDF is of course100% free.
The actual 400 page, fully illustrated PDFs are not free.

I wouldn't expect the PDFs to be free on their own. It just seems odd to charge for them when folks are buying the hardcover.

But you know your business best. Good luck with the campaign!

 

[djotaku]

I am not convinced 5E can do horror.

I was on the discord call yesterday when Celeste and the other designer were talking about it. I think they've done a pretty awesome job at the idea. Will it work? Time will tell.

 

[djotaku]

I wouldn't expect the PDFs to be free on their own. It just seems odd to charge for them when folks are buying the hardcover.

But you know your business best. Good luck with the campaign!

This is how Kobold Press does things. (Same with Paizo, by the way, if you aren't subscribed to the product line) If you go buy any of Kobold Press' books it's approximately: $40 for book only. $20 for PDF only. $50 for book+PDF.

It's not my favorite way (obviously since it costs more) and some companies (mostly small more indie companies) give you the PDF if you buy the book.

HOWEVER, I have come around to the notion that the PDF is a different product than the book. They have to do extra work to make sure there are links from the TOC, index, etc and create the PDF ToC sidebar thing. Again, it's not my favorite, but it's not like KP is an outlier. Paizo does it and they're a big company and with their new store you don't get ANY discount bundling unlike KP. (Although there IS Archives of Nethys) And WotC doesn't even give PDFs at all.

I take what I can get, based on the company.

 

[SlyFlourish]

I wouldn't expect the PDFs to be free on their own. It just seems odd to charge for them when folks are buying the hardcover.

But you know your business best. Good luck with the campaign!

The canadian dollars threw me off but it's under $100 for both hardcover books with PDFs so that's pretty reasonable. The alternative would be not selling the cheaper non-PDF package =)

$50 for a hardcover book with a PDF is a pretty good value these days.

 

[djotaku]

I'm currently considering the player's/GM hardcover/PDF plus Tarot for $83. I still have to run Labyrinth and Northlands, so I'm not planning on getting the adventure right now. I usually get the Foundry module to support them continuing to create for Foundry, but .... read on with respect to my TTRPG budget. Teetering on getting the $80 mega PDF bundle and the hardcovers of Shadow / Ebon Tides. I was going to buy those books ANYWAY this year and this is a $40 discount vs buying them off the website. It all comes down to how much of my TTRPG budget I want to blow this early in the year. It's KP's 20th anniversary so they're probably planning some other big way to get my money.

There's also a Nimble v2 backerkit thing coming in February...so I'm hesitant to blow too much of my TTRPG budget so early in the year. Decisions, decisions....

 

[Reynard]

This is how Kobold Press does things. (Same with Paizo, by the way, if you aren't subscribed to the product line) If you go buy any of Kobold Press' books it's approximately: $40 for book only. $20 for PDF only. $50 for book+PDF.

It's not my favorite way (obviously since it costs more) and some companies (mostly small more indie companies) give you the PDF if you buy the book.

HOWEVER, I have come around to the notion that the PDF is a different product than the book. They have to do extra work to make sure there are links from the TOC, index, etc and create the PDF ToC sidebar thing. Again, it's not my favorite, but it's not like KP is an outlier. Paizo does it and they're a big company and with their new store you don't get ANY discount bundling unlike KP. (Although there IS Archives of Nethys) And WotC doesn't even give PDFs at all.

I take what I can get, based on the company.

Sure, but that sort of thing definitely factors into how and with whom I spend my money -- especially with crowdfunding.