D&D 5E (2024) Is WOTC done publishing campaigns?

[Zardnaar]

ten times, easily, 100 times, probably not

There was a survey back then. 5-6 million was the number of players estimated 1999 iirc.

5.0 peaked at around 10-12 times the size of the market in 2013. 2013 was a nadir year though.

Going by number and various estimates 5E peaked around X2-X4 in sales as 1E.

Using WotCs numbers when they were throwing around 120-150 million.

Adjusted for inflation its about double peak golden age 1980s. WotC keeps it going for twice as long.

So its not even a X10 multiplier. 3-6 million phbs sold is a number hrown around a lot by people in the industry.

 

[Artamo]

There was a survey back then. 5-6 million was the number of players estimated 1999 iirc.

5.0 peaked at around 10-12 times the size of the market in 2013. 2013 was a nadir year though.

Going by number and various estimates 5E peaked around X2-X4 in sales as 1E.

Using WotCs numbers when they were throwing around 120-150 million.

Adjusted for inflation its about double peak golden age 1980s. WotC keeps it going for twice as long.

So its not even a X10 multiplier. 3-6 million phbs sold is a number hrown around a lot by people in the industry.

Are you sure it’s not…6 7?

 

[Zardnaar]

Are you sure it’s not…6 7?

6-7 million?

Maybe an extra 1 million. I think it was 6 million from old Dragon.

 

[Cergorach]

There was a survey back then. 5-6 million was the number of players estimated 1999 iirc.

But 1999 was when TSR was kaput and already bought by WotC two years earlier. And third edition would only release a year later (that didn't stop some of us playing 3e with the leaks from here)...

After looking it up, there were more D&D products released in 1999 then I ever expected, but the popularity of D&D had dipped deep at that point.

 

[Zardnaar]

But 1999 was when TSR was kaput and already bought by WotC two years earlier. And third edition would only release a year later (that didn't stop some of us playing 3e with the leaks from here)...

After looking it up, there were more D&D products released in 1999 then I ever expected, but the popularity of D&D had dipped deep at that point.

Aware I dont think it collapsed though.

And Kate 90s D&D jade a lot of good product as well it just flew under the radar.

 

[ECMO3]

Then your group is an extreme outlier. And not the pace of adventure releases WotC/Hasbro is aiming at in the first place.

There are so many great third party epic campaigns for 5e that if you are willing to go third party, you'll never have any issues with having played all the adventures ever again. If not, that's your problem.

We have played multiple 3rd party campaigns too: Moonshae Adventures, Call of the Deep, Call From the Deep, Dungeons of Drakenheim, Lairs of Etharis and Rise of the Drow.

We play old 1E adventures too redone for 5E, currently one group is playing a game based on the gold box video games (just finished Pool of Radiance at level 7, starting Curse of the Azure Bonds), and the other is playing a Vecna-focused campaign that is a compilation of 1E and 2E Greyhawk modules.

3rd party campaigns are hit or miss, generally WOTC campaigns are all pretty good. Moreover WOTC campaigns are mostly centered in Forgotten Realms or if they are not they have specific ways to tie them into the Forgotten Realms. That is not true for all the 3rd party campaigns.

 

[ECMO3]

It doesn't anywhere, but unless you skip most of it, it's going to last a LONG while (experience).

Most of those do not take a very long time. We did SODQ in I think 6 weeks end-to-end, VOER might have been less then that. Most of them are probably about 8 weeks. The ones that go all the way to level 20 take longer and usually if they don't go to level 20 we tack on extra content at the end to get us there (not always but most times).

We have 2 groups technically, but they have a common DM and 3 common players, one group has one unique player, one group has 2 unique players currently. Each of these groups plays one 4 hour session per week (so two sessions total) every week.

I also play in 3 other games currently but those are less frequent and when we do play they are shorter, typically 2-3 hours.

 

[payn]

6-7 million?

Maybe an extra 1 million. I think it was 6 million from old Dragon.