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I'm still baffled why you keep arguing with me. I am AGREEING with you. Had I done homework and looked up the show beforehand, I probably would have skipped it. 🤷 Doesn't change anything really. For me, this was not worth my time.

I can’t help you at this point. I can only conclude that despite your claim that you don’t like being argued with, you really like being argued with. Enjoy! :D
 

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Like I said upthread, it's a Marvel show for people who dont like Marvel or superheroes. It's for that A24 crowd, the contempt for the genre is fully in some of the responses here. Yes, there are room for different stories in the MCU, but, for me at least, if the same story can be told in the real world with the bare minimum of the things that are part of the genre, why did it need to be part of the genre? Same question we ask about what it means to be human in terms of transhumanism. How much of your humanity can be stripped away before you're no longer considered human or something else entirely for that matter?

The issue here for me isnt that it's a comedy drama about two actors that appeals to people who who are contemptuous of the supers genre. The issue is that there's almost NOTHING in this series for the people who DO enjoy the supers genre. You literally could have filed the names off, made Trevor an actor who had done something that caused him to be ostracized or "cancelled" (like Michael Richards) and kept Simon as someone who may have an ability or power and was hunted by "generic government agency" and it would literally be the same show.

No one is debating the perfomances, direction and pacing of the show. The craft is on full display. And the thing is we could have gotten a show with BOTH the acting and performances AND what most people expect from a "superhero" genre labeled show. But instead we really just got some "elitist", indie/A24 style, film bro appeasing tripe.
what can I say but as someone who loves comic books, superheroes, and marvel, it sure was nice that they could tell a story without relying on the tired tropes of the mcu. I like it when my comic books make the material matter, instead of just telling me its important. That i feel is often the problem with many of the MCU movies, mostly the Avengers - Iron Man did a great job making you care, and so did Guardians of the Galaxy.

Sure I love a good beat'em up, but I want it to happen because it matters, not just because we have a great SFX budget.
 



First episode was fantastic! Loved the soundtrack as well.

EDIT: Just binged the whole thing. That’s peak Marvel Television right there. I think that just replaced WandaVision as the best MCU show.

Everyone was great, but Sir Ben Kingsley really knocked it out of the park.

It’s like both a satire of and a love letter to acting – both the Hollywood film industry and traditional theater acting. (I would bet money that Sir Ben didn’t have to practice those Shakespeare monologues.)
It didn't replace Wandavision for me, but it was excellent and I agree with everything else you said.
 



Yeah, you're probably right. Now that a bit more time has passed, I'd probably rate Wonder Man second only WandaVision.
After Wandavision it gets tough for me. I loved both Dardevil: Born Again and Loki. Those two are in the same league as Wonderman for me. The reason it's so tough for me is that all three are great for different reasons.
 

After Wandavision it gets tough for me. I loved both Dardevil: Born Again and Loki. Those two are in the same league as Wonderman for me. The reason it's so tough for me is that all three are great for different reasons.
My top five would be WandaVision, Wonder Man, Hawkeye, Loki, and Moon Knight. Not sure of the exact order, though.

EDIT: It just occurred to me that I haven't watched Ironheart yet! I am also looking forward to VisionQuest later this year.
 

Simon Williams was originally a "Wealthy Industrialist" who went bankrupt trying to compete with Stark Industries, thus he blamed Tony, which allowed Zemo to manipulate him. Zemo used "Ionic Energy" to turn Simon into a "living engine of destruction" to rival Thor and Hulk.
It was after his resurrection in the 70s that he used his indestructible body to become a movie stuntman

and yes the original Wonderman did indeed fly with the help of a jetpack
He stopped needing a jetpack once he was fully composed of energy, though.
 

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