Ravenloft: The Horrors Within Announced, Release Date Scheduled for June 2026

[GarrettKP]

Of course. But it shows at least that there remains a continuing view that there is money to be made from the Dragonlance IP in 2026. And it might even be that “Champions” is is an idle in-joke.

Not a chance in hell that WotC is making an Idle Champions joke for the title of their big winter season initiative. IF somehow Dragonlance is the December book (I’m 99% sure it won’t be), then the title and naming convention aligning with Idle
champions would be purely a coincidence.

 

[GarrettKP]

There’s just no reason to think December is anything but a player supplement. They aren’t going to do back to back big adventures, and we know Dreadfall is coming out 3 months ahead of the December book. It’s also very clear now that they have been testing all those UA subclasses for the 2026 (or at worst early 2027) releases.

IF it isn’t Dark Sun, it’s because the Psion needs more testing and it got pushed back. And if it got pushed back, it got replaced with another player book, likely the place for the Mystic and Martial subclasses we saw in UAs earlier this year.

Dragonlance simply requires too many leaps in logic to make sense of. The easier explanation is almost always the correct one, and for this the easy explanation is Soth is in Ravenloft.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Not a chance in hell that WotC is making an Idle Champions joke for the title of their big winter season initiative. IF somehow Dragonlance is the December book (I’m 99% sure it won’t be), then the title and naming convention aligning with Idle
champions would be purely a coincidence.

You would be surprised how often writers use in-jokes (I.e. jokes for no-one but themselves) for titles. Anthony Horowitz even makes it a motive for murder.

 

[GarrettKP]

You would be surprised how often writers use in-jokes (I.e. jokes for no-one but themselves) for titles. Anthony Horowitz even makes it a motive for murder.

Sure, but the Idle Champions team isn’t WotC, and the ideal clicker has not been regularly promoted by or highlights by WotC for years now. This article is the most they have done for it in recent memory.

I just don’t think they are that interested in the idle clicker.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Sure, but the Idle Champions team isn’t WotC

But they work with WotC, and have their stuff regularly featured on the WotC site.

I just don’t think they are that interested in the idle clicker

WotC are very interested in their products featuring in other media (especially computer games). That’s why they appointed a Head of Franchising.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

I have got my doubts about two different no-FR settings in the same year.

We have got also the option of a Dragonlance sourcebook about alternate timelines or the "age of mortals". Here we shouldn't worry too much about canon and continuity. Or it could be about the "time of knights" in the age of dreams when Huma was alive and fighting against evil dragons.

 

[Remathilis]

There’s just no reason to think December is anything but a player supplement. They aren’t going to do back to back big adventures, and we know Dreadfall is coming out 3 months ahead of the December book. It’s also very clear now that they have been testing all those UA subclasses for the 2026 (or at worst early 2027) releases.

IF it isn’t Dark Sun, it’s because the Psion needs more testing and it got pushed back. And if it got pushed back, it got replaced with another player book, likely the place for the Mystic and Martial subclasses we saw in UAs earlier this year.

Dragonlance simply requires too many leaps in logic to make sense of. The easier explanation is almost always the correct one, and for this the easy explanation is Soth is in Ravenloft.

The turnaround for a UA to publish is a year, give or take. Mystic is probably too new for a December book, but if they were satisfied with the results, I think it could make it. Not sure how it synergizes with the five reprints and I'm really convinced the mystic is supposed to stand alone for a unique product rather than be generic arcane subs. If they did need more time for DS (which I don't think they do) you're more likely to see a general anthology (rather than Dragonlance) as a filler.

I still suspect Dark Sun in December. They evidence for it (three UAs, the trademark update) outweigh the evidence against (grognards complaining about how champion doesn't fit or how the subclasses and psion don't match their standards).

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I still suspect Dark Sun in December. They evidence for it (three UAs, the trademark update) outweigh the evidence against (grognards complaining about how champion doesn't fit or how the subclasses and psion don't match their standards).

No on is suggesting they aren't doing Dark Sun*. Just that it may not be this year. You do realise that a year is a purely artificial division of time, it is only one month between December 2026 and January 2027.

And the whole schedule for WotC stuff looks pushed back. Nothing from November to June!? We don't know what has been going on at WotC, but something has.

he turnaround for a UA to publish is a year, give or take. Mystic is probably too new for a December book

The turnaround for subclasses is highly variable. If you look at the record it can be anything from 3 months to two years. And, of course, as significant proportion get axed, and some are never publicly tested.


*Unless they have handed it over to a third party. IMO possible, and not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Parmandur]

They aren’t going to do back to back big adventures, and we know Dreadfall is coming out 3 months ahead of the December book.

Vecna: Eve of Ruin - May 21, 2024

Quests from the Infinite Staircase - July 30, 2024

Dreadfall and a theoretical DL module book would be quite different products.

The Subclass line is more interesting, but the argument that they wouldn't do an Adventure book so soon after Dreadfall does not really hold, since one could as easily say they wouldn't do a book with player supplement material so soon after the matching Arcana Unleashed book.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Deadfall is a half size adventure book - a new thing, but most similar to the adventure that accompanied Planescape. But most significantly, it is only adventure-type content so far announced for this year. All the way from the TSR years on the D&D publisher has made a significant part of it's income from selling adventures. I can see they giving up on it, even if the "Adventure Path" has fallen out of favour (personally, I am far from convinced about that).

A hypothetical Dragonlance book would be redone classic adventures - akin to Tales from the Yawning Portal, Ghosts of Saltmarsh, and Infinite Staircase.