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No matter what you might claim, "what the player hoped for" and "what the player decided" is, in this case using these rules, exactly...

Oh, for--! Are you doing this thing again? We are all aware that the game takes place in an imaginary state.

You do realize this is, by name, your personal way to play 4e?

Again, that's different than what happened with the runes. A closer analogy might be if you and your friends got together for a raffle...

The analogy there is that the GM - who in theory controls the setting - gets to put the runes there but doesn't get to determine what...

False Equivalence #1: In my example the initial status is undefined. In yours it's defined as a living orc. False Equivalence #2: In my...

Ooh! Ooh! Can I play? "I wish that the orc was really a pinata full of candy" and when he successfully hits they're showered with...

False equivalences still remain false. The shadowy figure in the doorway is undefined. The PC hopes it's an orc and is successful, so...

because attacking the orc is actually dependent to the character's skill and is a non-fixed outcome, whereas deciphering what the runes...

I don't think anyone is objecting to the spirit of what you're saying, but translated to the game, there's no reason any of those...

In fairness, there's certainly some causality to be seen there in hindsight - thing A led to thing B. But it's an indirect causality...

Only because it didn't matter. If it mattered, like the roll for the runes, he'd have known ahead of the character that hoped to find...

This guy hopes the runes say what he wants them to say. He rolls and is successful, so they say what he wanted them to say. Or...

That there's potential positive consequences (you get to eat pickles) whose achievement is uncertain - just how stuck is that jar...

I disagree. The events you listed were of the form A --> B --> C, or even A --> B --> C --> D. "You fail the license test" --> "you...