Okay. Fair enough if you want to discuss it. I'm down for it. I must admit to not knowing a great deal about non-English language fantasy. (I'm better on non_English language myth and legend.)
It's just that the way you've brought it up made it seem like you were using it as a counter argument...
Dude, this is the second time you've brought this up. But it really is a separate question from "what are the links from mediaeval sources to the likes of Tolkien."
It's not a bad question. I think it's a very interesting area for discussion. But it isn't a counter argument to "there are strong...
Oh yeah. I hadn't thought of adaptions to other media.
I do get the feeling that many adaptions like to interrogate the assumptions of the source material. The only example I can think of right now is Into the Woods but I'm sure there's more.
Hard agree. Discworld is definitely one of those fantasy series that doesn't romanticise the past. Can you imagine Granny Weatherwax waxing lyrical (sorry not sorry) about the good old days of yore? Of course not.
I have to confess, I've never read any Harry Turtledove or Poul Anderson. Does this make me a bad nerd?
I can't agree with the bolded bit. Romanticising the past really is a major fantasy trope.
@Tonguez I don't think I can agree about The Chronicles of Thomas Convenant. Pretty much everyone in the Land looks back to the time of the First Lords (Berek thru Kevin Land Waster) as a golden age. And the current (as of the first trilogy) Land is a pastoral paradise. Even when that changes in...
I had to google Caleb Carr. But I have read The Alienist. I enjoyed it. I agree it doesn't shy away from the grimier elements of life in a major city in the 19th C.
@Clint_L I see your point about The First Law series. It's set in a romanticised past of warriors and kings, wise wizards, and even an epic quest or two.
But I feel that the way the world's setting is initially presented to the reader as romanticised and then undercut by later revelations is a...
There’s a side discussion in the Settings of Hope vs. Settings of Despair thread about whether or not the fantasy genre looks back on the past with a mythologising/romanticising lens. This has got me thinking about examples of fantasy stories that don’t do this.
Just to be clear – I think most...