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I think that's more because those books don't use NPCs that join the party as an equal. The 5e DMG suggested PC class levels for NPCs...

Holy hell. I can't believe it has been 10 years since that thread. I need to go hide under a blanket.

Group hug? :)

He's more likely to look to Major Dan and be good at following orders. Forest Gump is a great example of an 8 intelligence at work.

I'm of the opinion that what's good for the goose, is good for the gander. If NPCs can do it, PCs should be able to do it as well. If...

I cannot disagree more. Your subjective opinion about the purpose of stats is meaningful only to you. From my point of view, if stats...

They clearly don't in 5.5e, because an archmage wizard NPC has different hit points, abilities, etc. than a PC wizard. Both are...

But the player chose the concept and assigned the stats, so presumably they assigned them so that they match the concept and if they...

Then that comes into play with Specific Beats general and they choose those options. Until then, they've stupidly made a pact with some...

In 5e there are NPCs that do have them. I believe they took it out for 5.5e, but there's no reason a DM can't or shouldn't make NPCs...

OK, sure. That's not at all what some of your posts read like but we'll chalk this up to the perils of text-only communication. You and...

The old dragon magazine doesn't really matter. An 80 IQ is mildly below average. An 8 int is mildly below average. They are equivalent.

You leave Magic Mike out of this!

So in your game the players decide the consequences of their actions?

They represent things that exist in the fiction. Why would we have rules for them otherwise?