I don't really care what WotC does or does not put into their books, it's not going to make any difference to me. I'm happy for you to want a book that meets your needs and preferences.
However, I am opposed to anyone who thinks they can make moral decisions about how other people play their...
I won't vote, since I don't and likely never will run 5e, but I am, in general, perfectly happy and willing to start a level-based game at higher than first level if there is a reason to do so, and see no reason why that would change in the hypothetical, parallel universe where I did run 5e.
It was based on an apocryphal story about the Bishop Otto wielding a club at the Battle of Hastings. As I recall, he was depicted thusly in a painting, and it was probably some Victorian "scholar" who invented the whole no shedding blood story out of whole cloth.
I always felt that was illogical in a very realistic and believable way, assuming all clerics belong to pretty much a single order following a general force of Law, ala B/X and BECMI, rather than a disparate bunch of specific gods. Once you reach the point where there a bunch of completely...
In case you're not aware, there is a PtbA version called Seedless Bloom out and about. The people involved seem to have some huge issues with the original authors/publisher and like to go on rants any time Continuum is mentioned, but it is absolutely a spiritual successor...
Again, I'm talking about Dark Sun and templars, not necessarily default 5e Warlocks. And even if the patron can't "take it back", killing your patron is not quite the same as having them take it back.
My analysis is that anyone is welcome to like or dislike any of those mechanics for any reason they want, but they should not suggest that one of them is inherently or objectively more concerning.
Dislike whatever you want for whatever subjective reasons you want, but don't then turn around and...
And the function of a fireball is to cause slaughter en masse, burning people to death. In the real world, we've come to generally agree that flame weapons are horrible, and steps have been taken to eliminate their use. You're not doing your position any favours by trying to argue that fireballs...
I'm talking about Dark Sun generally and how I think Templars should work (ie, I believe they should be able to act against their Sorcerer King and, if evil, should be able to be redeemed). I know next to nothing about 5e Warlocks or how suitable they are to represent my preferred Templar...
There is definitely room for redemption arcs and the like. One of the main characters from the books is a Templar who helps overthrow their Sorcerer King, although there is then the question within the game about what happens if you lose access to your source of power.
Redemption arcs for...
Reading into what's been said, I have concluded that what they actually mean when saying it's a moral issue is something along the lines of, "This mechanic makes me think about things I find immoral in the real world and thus it makes me uncomfortable." Which means the mechanic itself isn't...
Although @clearstream calls it a moral issue, when he goes into more detail, it appears it's actually just a matter of personal preference: the rule makes him uncomfortable, but it's use or existence is not immoral.
I support an informed decision to use existing material in preference to making your own, as long as its not based on some sense that published authors inherently deserve to exercise any special authority over you at your own table. :cool: