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This. A typical sandbox is DM created, but player driven.

I mean, to be fair, people have been sucked into cults since we've had anything like spirituality or religion. This is a new variation...

Yeah, I am reading that now and I honestly think some posters just have a slightly different take on the very same advice we are talking...

Yes, and that reason is to drive play. Their actions are quite literally determining where the fiction is going. I'm not initiating...

It seems pretty obvious to me that there are people in this conversation who believe it is literally impossible for a GM to provide...

It absolutely is them exercising control over the fiction. I didn't send them to the sage or library. I didn't come up with the goal...

I think that the range of consequences would be likely understood by the players and would keep to within a reasonable limitation based...

I have played OSE and Moldvay I like. But never heard of this one before

I don't understand what action you're thinking of where there is such a wide degree of variation. But still, you do have real knowledge...

True. It would be pretty boring, though, if the complications were all the same!

Dolmenwood is pretty new I think. I haven't heard much of Principe Apocrypha but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. So I don't know...

This points to something else that might be a disconnect: in order to get not-obvious information and answers, how much in-character...

Yeah, that's my point...I think this language is grating for fixed world sandboxers because they (we) do see our games as player-driven...

Right; the GM is applying their judgement to adjudicate the world. Different GMs could play them differently. Just as 'success with a...

I think 'player-created' vs 'GM-created', as someone suggested, accurately captures the distinction you're getting at without making...