D&D 5E 3 Classic Settings Coming To 5E?

Staffan · Sep 27, 2020

The Glen said:
Another thing that you're going to have to address is the fact that TSR nuked most of the settings before they went way in an attempt to try to change up the world to boost sales. This was generally regarded as a terrible idea as it took away what made so many of the settings popular.

Planescape was known as the multiplanar Freakshow partially because of the art. But it was also well-regarded because it had all of the inter factional internecine sniping that caused most of the conflict in Sigil. Then the lady of pain kicks them all out of the city and suddenly the major source of conflict is gone.

My understanding is that there were plans for Planescape that involved letting the factions back into Sigil, but the setting got canceled before getting that far.

Another setting that's gotten a lot of flak for changes wrought by metaplot is Dark Sun. Personally, I think the revised Dark Sun setting is a better setting, because it has more variety. In the original setting, the city-states are mostly the same except for cosmetic differences, but in the revised setting many of the sorcerer-monarchs are dead/gone, leaving things open for more fun stuff. The process of getting there was pretty ham-handed, but I liked the end result.

Weiley31 · Sep 27, 2020

AdmundfortGeographer said:
I think the embracing of some silliness in Spelljammer was closer to the goofy antics of most D&D table play style. It recognized the gonzo going on at many D&D tables and didn’t hide from it. It was too much for some who wanted their D&D to be serious business and no silly.

But 5e did get a Giff!

And we have a Gunslinger fighter Archetype to give it too!

LuisCarlos17f · Sep 27, 2020

I wonder about gnomes could become more popular if there is a story where a gnome is a mixture of little ugly duckling and Tyrion Lannister with some special tricks, showing you to be the hero who saves the day you haven't to be the knight with a shinning armour or a bodybuilder barbarian..... and the aasimars the victims of inverse racism, with an horrible reputation of being wolves with sheep's clothing, when really only they suffer a black legend created by enemy propaganda what exagerated the wrong actions by their ancestors.

What about the "furry" races, antropomorphic animals, for example the tabaxi? They could become popular among the no-D&D fandom.

Mecheon · Sep 27, 2020

LuisCarlos17f said:
I wonder about gnomes could become more popular if there is a story where a gnome is a mixture of little ugly duckling and Tyrion Lannister with some special tricks, showing you to be the hero who saves the day you haven't to be the knight with a shinning armour or a bodybuilder barbarian..... and the aasimars the victims of inverse racism, with an horrible reputation of being wolves with sheep's clothing, when really only they suffer a black legend created by enemy propaganda what exagerated the wrong actions by their ancestors.

Yeah, no.

Gnomes would be popular if they could pick a niche and stick to it, which is why the tinker gnome stereotype stuck so long. It gives gnomes their thing, their stereotype you can explore. Gnomes being unpopular is because for years they've been "All of the things that were left over from elves, dwarves and halflings" and the one time it attempted to do something different with it that had influence was either a somewhat little-known Mystera bit, or Tinker Gnomes, AKA, 'let's just make an entire race a bloody joke'

Warcraft has done a better job of making serious gnomes than D&D ever did which.... Says a lot. A -lot-. This is why Dragonborn and Tieflings have stuck as they have very big, clear, obvious parts to them and their character and stereotype that stick with people. Gnomes haven't had that. They're starting to get it thanks to Warcraft being the most influential RPG thing since LotR, D&D just needs to keep going with what they've started to embrace and go serious with it

LuisCarlos17f said:
What about the "furry" races, antropomorphic animals, for example the tabaxi? They could become popular among the no-D&D fandom.

They already are popular? I don't see why we need to explore any wider. Folks already enjoy those ones

LuisCarlos17f · Sep 27, 2020

My opinion is gnomes aren't so popular because their racial traits in the previous editions only allowed them to be good as illusionist spellcasters or stealth classes (rogues). This is a good reason we need racial traits for PC races to be modular or optional, to allow different types of characters.

D&D has got lots of humanoid races based in antropomorphic animals as the tabaxi, totles or the lupines.

AdmundfortGeographer · Sep 27, 2020

The best D&D gnomes are deep gnomes, IMO.

Aldarc · Sep 27, 2020

Mecheon said:
Gnomes would be popular if they could pick a niche and stick to it, which is why the tinker gnome stereotype stuck so long. It gives gnomes their thing, their stereotype you can explore. Gnomes being unpopular is because for years they've been "All of the things that were left over from elves, dwarves and halflings" and the one time it attempted to do something different with it that had influence was either a somewhat little-known Mystera bit, or Tinker Gnomes, AKA, 'let's just make an entire race a bloody joke'

Warcraft has done a better job of making serious gnomes than D&D ever did which.... Says a lot. A -lot-. This is why Dragonborn and Tieflings have stuck as they have very big, clear, obvious parts to them and their character and stereotype that stick with people. Gnomes haven't had that. They're starting to get it thanks to Warcraft being the most influential RPG thing since LotR, D&D just needs to keep going with what they've started to embrace and go serious with it

Gnomes are bearable in Golarion where they are chromatic-haired fey that risk their hair "bleaching" without new experiences. The fey gnomes in 4e were also a nice niche that moved them away from dwarves and halflings, though somewhat closer to elves.

Khelon Testudo · Sep 27, 2020

DnD Warlord said:
In a post game of thrones world it has a lot to offer.

I thought it contained a lot of ethnic essentialism or stereotyping.

QuentinGeorge · Sep 27, 2020

nevin said:
no it's because they get benefits and the DM's don't enact the consequences of thier race enough in the games. I'm playing in a game now the Assimar Paladin has been trying to be low key and under the radar but simply can't , everyone know she has blood of the heavens, w'eve got a fetchling who no one trusts because she looks wierd, and after 8 levels the Half orc is finally sloooowly starting to gain acceptance. If more DM's treated those races right I think there would be less of them. A tiefling, once everyone knows you are hell touched should be ostracized, and possibly even have entire churches trying to kill them.

I don't know why you suppose churchs should be killing tieflings (and you're not the first to suggest this). There's plenty of myths and legends about heroic figures with demonic ancestry. Look at the story of Merlin. He's born as a hellspawn but because he's baptised as birth by a priest and hence his demonic destiny is averted. Why do so many people want their religious figures genocidal?

Mecheon · Sep 27, 2020

QuentinGeorge said:
Why do so many people want their religious figures genocidal?

"Religious figure is actually a villain" is a big storyline thing nowerdays so, I read that and I see "It is your adventurer-given job to topple the church" as the immediate response to it

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