Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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So we can now see it is funding like gangbusters... however I have not backed it. Not because of the controversy being discussed here, but because of the mind boggling decision to separate the PDF and Print pledge levels in the worst way I've ever seen. $200 pledge for either the 5e or DCC versions with NO PDF INCLUDED... If you want that, it's another $130 pledge for a total of $330.
Yeah. That’s one weird-ass licensing agreement.

Doesn’t seem to be slowing them down though.
 


I'm always wary when people bring this up because there's a categorical difference between this and the legal system.

I was merely addressing the problem of sweeping generalizations. In the particular instance being discussed, I basically agreed with your conclusion.
I have some sympathy with Goodman, but he broke his word and got back into bed with a terrible person. Those were his choices.
 


Everyone is going to handle this according to their own conscience, and whatever lets them sleep at night. I'm no exception. So I had to sit with this for a few days and mull everything over. I watched the YouTube videos, I read the articles, and I read the comments here on EN World. I followed up on its supporters to see what else they were supporting, and I followed up on its critics to see what else they were critical of. And then I made my decision.

I won't be buying this product. However nice it might be, whatever its price, I'm no longer interested. As far as I am concerned, the OAR series is complete without it. I will continue collecting the OAR books for the time being, but I'm going to be very careful with GG's products going forward. I don't think Goodman Games will continue to do business with JG or their ilk--but if they do, the next decision will be a lot easier for me.
 


Invincible Overlord seems to be doing pretty well on Backerkit. I had thought that some of the negative buzz might slow the project down, but it instead appears to be selling faster than I thought it would.

Overall, Goodman Games still seems to be going strong. Castle Whiterock now has over double the followers that it had the last time I had looked at that particular project.

Third party DCC projects like this 0-level funnel seem to be doing fine too.

I think, as others have said, there is a portion of the ttrpg audience who do not follow boards. Heck, I do follow the boards, but still had zero familiarity with Bledsaw before his name came up here on ENWorld.

We will likely never know, but it would be interesting to know statistics such as how many CSIO backers are regularly active on message boards or how many detractors of the project were people who would otherwise purchase a Goodman Games product.
 

I think, as others have said, there is a portion of the ttrpg audience who do not follow boards. Heck, I do follow the boards, but still had zero familiarity with Bledsaw before his name came up here on ENWorld.
The upshot of the internet not being real life is that the people bloviating on Facebook or YouTube or wherever in support of Bledsaw are also not a big part of the community.
 

The upshot of the internet not being real life is that the people bloviating on Facebook or YouTube or wherever in support of Bledsaw are also not a big part of the community.
You’re ever the optimist, because (based on wholly anecdotal evidence, yet gleaned from decades of going to cons and playing in FLGSes) the people who support Bledsaw’s views are a huuuge part of the community, cyber-bloviators or not.
 
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