Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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Most infuriating? Going to multiple North Texas RPG Cons where many, Many, MANY in attendance (including some founders) treated Jennell Jaquays like a prized exotic animal—nice to her face, and paraded around for credibility, but sneers-n-jeers the instant she left the room.
That's... exactly, spot-on, a gnawing fear I had in the back of my mind about NTRPG Con. One of my regrets about never attending was never getting to meet her, but that would have ruined the whole experience for me. Makes me glad I never went.

Arduin Grimoire springs to mind.

Yeah, but it's neither an adventure or a setting, although it includes some setting material. It's a whole system.

That said, I love me some Arduin.
Not really a system until the 80s. The original three volumes, which are the obvious candidate for an OAR treatment, are really OD&D supplements very much akin to Greyhawk or Blackmoor. It's true that they're not adventures, but then neither is OAR #8 (Grimtooth's Traps).
 

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Empire of the Petal Throne, which is even more problematic than stuff associated with the Bledsaws, if you can imagine it
Though a) the Tékumel Foundation is doing a damn good job of keeping the original materials available and b) someone capable of giving EPT the OAR treatment would have to have good enough worldbuilding chops, I think, to do their own original property that, while blatantly inspired by Barker, didn't share its cooties.
 


Though a) the Tékumel Foundation is doing a damn good job of keeping the original materials available and b) someone capable of giving EPT the OAR treatment would have to have good enough worldbuilding chops, I think, to do their own original property that, while blatantly inspired by Barker, didn't share its cooties.
Absolutely no way. That property is radioactive forever. What Barker did is way worse than the weird bigoted uncle ranting on Facebook that Bledsaw likes to engage in.

Hell, at this point I'm not sure you can convince me that Barker didn't write the Turner Diaries under a pseudonym.

Edited to add, the Tekumel Foundation also did a damn good job of knowing the truth about Barker's extracurricular activities for a long time and did absolutely bupkis about it until it became public through a third party. That's, you know, pretty poopy.
 
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I have seen people speculate that this project was a matter of compliance with a contract that GG could not get out of, and a lot of the choices on this project page reinforce that to me. Limited run, very expensive pledge tiers, no pdf with hardcopy, no price advantage for larger bundles, no LE cover (on a GG product?), short pledge window, no retailer tier, etc. all sound to me like they are not passionate about it and would rather it be over already.

Given the timing, it fits that GG tried to breach a contract in 2020, and JG came back before the statute of limitations ran and demanded compliance.
 

I have seen people speculate that this project was a matter of compliance with a contract that GG could not get out of, and a lot of the choices on this project page reinforce that to me. Limited run, very expensive pledge tiers, no pdf with hardcopy, no price advantage for larger bundles, no LE cover (on a GG product?), short pledge window, no retailer tier, etc. all sound to me like they are not passionate about it and would rather it be over already.

Given the timing, it fits that GG tried to breach a contract in 2020, and JG came back before the statute of limitations ran and demanded compliance.
It would seem plausible, but if the legal agreement was that comprehensive in its terms and conditions, it wouldn't also have a boilerplate conduct clause that can justify a termination of the agreement? My understanding is that is very common and has been for some time.
 

I have seen people speculate that this project was a matter of compliance with a contract that GG could not get out of, and a lot of the choices on this project page reinforce that to me. Limited run, very expensive pledge tiers, no pdf with hardcopy, no price advantage for larger bundles, no LE cover (on a GG product?), short pledge window, no retailer tier, etc. all sound to me like they are not passionate about it and would rather it be over already.
the limit is to not pay license fees to JG directly, the short window probably serves the same purpose. The only thing that might be due to JG is that you do not get a PDF with the printed book, but even that could be about limiting the licensing fees.

Also, if Goodman knew he had a contract with JG that he could not get out of, his 2020 statements are a lie. I don’t think they were, and they entered this project willingly at a later time, so it is all on Goodman
 

I don't think many people were in doubt that it would do well. And polarising issues always have the other side of the fence in equal numbers.
I do want to push back on this, because while this is true at the highest levels (particularly when it comes to overarching political ethos), when you drill into the details it's not even close. In particular, literally every form of bigotry you might imagine is a extreme minority, albeit with outsized influence (both socially and politically). They like to ride single file to hide their numbers, but when push comes to shove they are a sad, lonely bunch.
 

It would seem plausible, but if the legal agreement was that comprehensive in its terms and conditions, it wouldn't also have a boilerplate conduct clause that can justify a termination of the agreement? My understanding is that is very common and has been for some time.

A contract can be enforceable even if it is not comprehensive. Pre-2020 (or even now) I would not be surprised if there was no conduct clause in a production agreement between ttrpg companies, people do not hire lawyers unless they have to. Also, I would be surprised if JG would ever enter into an agreement with a conduct clause given the opinions he holds and his eagerness to post about them.

Also, if Goodman knew he had a contract with JG that he could not get out of, his 2020 statements are a lie. I don’t think they were, and they entered this project willingly at a later time, so it is all on Goodman

People shoot first and ask their lawyer questions later more often than not. 'Party A announced they will not continue to work with Party B, will the existing agreement have consequences for them?' is an extremely common set of facts for contract disputes.

Flashback to 2020, JG just lit their reputation on fire, and is apparently too broke to even fulfill their last kickstarter, I can see GG terminating the relationship on the belief JG is not going to fight them about it. But if there was a contract for this project in existence, even if GG hadn't started work, that may be enough to enforce the agreement or sue for damages. Given the prominence of this IP, JG would probably be able to argue a big number on the value they'd lost out on as a result of the breach. I'm a lawyer, and if I didn't care about who I represented, I'd bring that lawsuit.
 

They like to ride single file to hide their numbers, but when push comes to shove they are a sad, lonely bunch.
It's worth noting that the counterprotestors against these folks almost always massively outnumber the actual bigots. There's a lot of tough talk online, but in the end, it's a dozen sad sacks who go to all of the events in a four or five-state area, to help further disguise how little local support there is for their nonsense.
 

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