Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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That's... exactly, spot-on, a gnawing fear I had in the back of my mind about NTRPG Con. One of my regrets about never attending was never getting to meet her, but that would have ruined the whole experience for me. Makes me glad I never went.

I went for about five years straight, with the last time being about a decade ago. Pre-2016, most certainly.

For every great memory, there are five bad ones. And most of the bad were permutations of Goodman’s recent golly-gee-whiz “we’re about building bridges—why can’t we all just get along?!!!” obliviousness (except, in NTRPG’s case, it was more intentional—and, dare say, malevolent—disingenuousness than actual naivety.)
 

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Given the prominence of this IP
It’s a 45+ year old badly-done city setting from a niche publisher within a niche of a niche of a niche hobby. It’s not a prominent anything. More than likely the parties would have to start by explaining what the hell D&D even is to the judge. “That thing the kids do on Stranger Things” would likely be involved at some point.
 

It’s a 45+ year old badly-done city setting from a niche publisher within a niche of a niche of a niche hobby. It’s not a prominent anything. More than likely the parties would have to start by explaining what the hell D&D even is to the judge. “That thing the kids do on Stranger Things” would likely be involved at some point.
You can tell it's a mediocre, highly niche setting because of how well it did in all of the Survivor threads we used to do on here :LOL:
 

People shoot first and ask their lawyer questions later more often than not. 'Party A announced they will not continue to work with Party B, will the existing agreement have consequences for them?' is an extremely common set of facts for contract disputes.
If I tell the public that there will be no future projects based on JG material, then I check whether I can get out of all existing contracts first, or I hedge it and say that I will not enter any new ones and am looking into terminating all existing ones.

The contract dispute still happens either way, but at least I was honest in my communication to the public. It’s also not like he announced that in 2020 and at any point after said something like ‘I am sorry, I thought we could terminate the existing contract, but the lawyers / courts disagreed, so we will be releasing CSIO as a consequence of that’. At no point in time did Goodman say anything that would indicate that their hands were tied, he even said something about wanting to build bridges
 


An Alarums & Excursions reprint project might work too. But no idea what the rights situation is on either of those. (I suspect A&E's rights situation is so hard as to make legal reprints functionally impossible.)

If you really want a history of TTRPGs, that would be the ultimate IMHO. When I was making my meager and now embarrassing contributions in the 80s, there were no contracts for authors, not even a terms of service. You just sent stuff and technically, you were paying her to print your "zine." Many people put copyright notices on their own zines, but it was understood that she had the right to print them and reprint them, but even that wasn't actually spelled out. Given that, I could see a publisher being afraid to do a "best of" and any sort of full print would be impossible. Even beyond rights, I can't imagine how you could ever curate it into something smaller. So much of it is comments on other zines with people going back and forth with each other, sometimes over multiple issues.

Until health problems stopped her, she was selling back issues electronically, but at $2 an issue and it finishing after 593 issues, that's a steep cost. I wish they'd just bundle them up and offer them at a more reasonable price.
 

If I tell the public that there will be no future projects based on JG material, then I check whether I can get out of all existing contracts first, or I hedge it and say that I will not enter any new ones and am looking into terminating all existing ones.

The contract dispute still happens either way, but at least I was honest in my communication to the public. It’s also not like he announced that in 2020 and at any point after said something like ‘I am sorry, I thought we could terminate the existing contract, but the lawyers / courts disagreed, so we will be releasing CSIO as a consequence of that’. At no point in time did Goodman say anything that would indicate that their hands were tied, he even said something about wanting to build bridges
I would have liked him to come out and say that too. That said, if JG is threatening them with a lawsuit, GG is limited in what it can say about the project. Damaging the value of a contract one is a party to (like saying "these people you hate are threatening us and making us do this") could itself create liability for GG. If lawyers are involved, GG's lawyer has almost certainly told them to say nothing about the project/JG without running it by the lawyer to avoid that. I would even expect that some of the announcements about the project were jointly drafted by GG and JG so both sides cleared it.

Legal threats make people behave differently than they would otherwise, is all I am trying to say. I'm not buying the book, and I don't know anyone who is.
 


An Alarums & Excursions reprint project might work too. But no idea what the rights situation is on either of those. (I suspect A&E's rights situation is so hard as to make legal reprints functionally impossible.)
A&E is worthy of preservation, but the volume and sheer number of contributors could make it soooo difficult.

Yeah, but it's neither an adventure or a setting, although it includes some setting material. It's a whole system.

That said, I love me some Arduin.

Not really a system until the 80s. The original three volumes, which are the obvious candidate for an OAR treatment, are really OD&D supplements very much akin to Greyhawk or Blackmoor. It's true that they're not adventures, but then neither is OAR #8 (Grimtooth's Traps).

I think for that they'd have to pull out the implied setting stuff (Bugs! Technos! Shardra the Castrator!) and build it up from there.

If the OAR line is going to continue without the license to do TSR stuff, it's going to have to expand its scope.
 

It would seem plausible, but if the legal agreement was that comprehensive in its terms and conditions, it wouldn't also have a boilerplate conduct clause that can justify a termination of the agreement? My understanding is that is very common and has been for some time.
Contracts for small businesses are all over the place and my experience is that most lack real knowledge about this stuff.
 

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