Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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Wondering if it has been revealed what the licensing agreement is. Did GG pay JG for the license to make CSIO in the first place? I haven't seen this brought up or revealed anywhere. I just don't see a world where JG licenses it their properties without gains. Maybe GG paying off the 2010 Kickstarter backers let's JG keep those profits guilt free somehow? That doesn't seem like enough.

I'm not backing this project. I have all the other OAR series, but I think I'd feel crappy every time I saw this one on my shelf, if I had it. I don't want to play it or run it. No matter how you roll the dice, JG is somehow benefiting and I just can't justify supporting the bigotry.
 

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It's very interesting how people who wants to support Goodman seem to forget about the post where Bob Bledsaw II talks about how excited he is to be working with Goodman for the last couple years, and the projects Bledsaw is looking forward to based on the success of this Kickstarter.
I think if it actually kicks off a JG Renaissance than that would be a big problem and would make me reconsider my opinion on this project. I see Bledsaw as a fraud and a liar so I don't take him claiming something as solid evidence. Especially when GG has explicitly rejected some of his claims.
 


I think in one of the previous threads, Goodman was quoted as saying that he was subject to some confidentiality restrictions as to what he could say about the agreement with JG and its context. Although nothing subsequent to that has suggested that GG is doing this under duress to me, I wonder if making the sort of statement you've proposed could leave him exposed legally?
no idea, apparently he was able to mention / confirm that he was under a confidentiality agreement at least, that is not always the case either. I assume that in that case he probably could have said a little more too, but as you wrote, I see no duress here anyway, just Goodman valuing the preservation of a middling setting over working with a holocaust denier.

Well, he is a 60 year old white male, so I guess he has the privilege to not have to think about it too hard…
 

Fun fact: there are four threads. Did you miss this one?


It's very interesting how people who wants to support Goodman seem to forget about the post where Bob Bledsaw II talks about how excited he is to be working with Goodman for the last couple years, and the projects Bledsaw is looking forward to based on the success of this Kickstarter.

I did miss that one.
I am not someone who is buying the product.
The majority of the people I play D&D with have no idea who Bledsaw is.
My group did not pay attention to Bledsaw before CSIO.
My group will not pay attention to Bledsaw after CSIO.
 

There's so much we don't know that it really comes down to trust and judgement. Given Joe Goodman's history, do we think it's plausible he is doing this because he genuinely doesn't care about collaborating with Bledsaw? Or does he think that cutting them out of royalties is sufficient?
I assume the latter, given that the project is happening at all it could also be the former

I think if you're of the mind that licensing while cutting out of the royalties is beyond the pale, then Joe Goodman genuinely disagrees with you and that he's not being forced to. Whether that disagreement is enough to never support the company is another question.
everyone can decide that for themselves, I have made my decision
 



I am not someone who is buying the product.
The majority of the people I play D&D with have no idea who Bledsaw is.
My group did not pay attention to Bledsaw before CSIO.
My group will not pay attention to Bledsaw after CSIO.
same, life continues just like before, the only thing that has changed is my stance on Goodman. Saves me some money
 

I did miss that one.
I am not someone who is buying the product.
The majority of the people I play D&D with have no idea who Bledsaw is.
My group did not pay attention to Bledsaw before CSIO.
My group will not pay attention to Bledsaw after CSIO.
If Bledshaw produced something that was to your tastes, would you buy it?
 

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