Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized

Goodman Games' CEO Joseph Goodman made a statement via YouTube over the weekend*. The video itself focused on the content of the controversial upcoming City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding product, but was prefaced by a short introduction by Joseph Goodman, in which he reiterates his company's commitment to inclusivity and diversity and its opposition to bigotry, something which they say they "don't want to be associated with".

Goodman goes on to say that the company's efforts have been "mischaracterized by some folks" but does not go so far as to identify the mischaracterization, so it's not entirely clear what they consider to be untrue other than the "inaccurate" statements made by Bob Bledsaw II of Judges Guild about Goodman Games' plans, which Goodman mentioned last week.

For those who haven't been following this story, it has been covered in the articles Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter, Goodman Games Offers Assurances About Judges Guild Royalties, and Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy. In short, Goodman Games is currently licensing an old property from a company with which it claimed to have cut ties in 2020 after the owner of that company made a number of bigoted comments on social media. Goodman Games has repeatedly said that this move would allow them to provide backers of an old unfulfilled Judges Guild Kickstarter with refunds, but there are many people questioning seeming contradictions in both the timelines involved and in the appropriateness of the whole endeavour.

Despite the backlash, the prospects of the crowdfunding project do not seem to have been harmed. The pre-launch page has over 3,000 followers, and many of the comments under the YouTube videos or on other social media are not only very supportive of the project, but also condemn those who question its appropriateness. In comparison, the original (failed) Judges Guild Kickstarter had only 965 backers.

The video is embedded below, followed by a transcript of the relevant section.



Hi everybody, I'm Joseph Goodman of Goodman Games. We recently announced our City State of the Invincible Overlord crowdfunding project for 5E and DCC RPG.

In the video you're about to see, some of our product development team is going to tell you about what makes the City State so amazing and why we're bringing it back to 5E and DCC audiences nearly 50 years after it was first released. It really is an amazing setting.

But we could have rolled this project out with a lot more clarity. Now, to be clear, Goodman Games absolutely opposes any sort of bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, transphobia. We don't want to support it. We don't want to be associated with it.

Our well-intentioned effort to launch this project in a way that refunds backers of a former failed Kickstarter from another publisher kind of backfired in the way we announced it. Rest assured, the funds from this crowdfunding will actually fund refunds to backers of the original City State crowdfunding for the Pathfinder edition from 2014.

Unfortunately, our efforts have been—you know, I didn’t clarify them perfectly when we rolled it out—and they've been mischaracterized by some folks since then. But please rest assured, we stand for inclusivity and diversity.

You can read a lot more detail in the post that's linked below, and there's another video linked below where we talk about this in even more detail. But for now, we hope you will sit back and enjoy as some of the product development team tells you about really what makes the City State of the Invincible Overlord so amazing, and why you might want to check it out when it comes to crowdfunding soon.

Thanks, and I'll turn it over to them now.

The statement refers to a post about this that is supposed to be linked below, but at the time of writing no post is linked below the video, so it's not clear if that refers to a new post or one of Goodman Games' previous statements on the issue.

I reached out to Joseph Goodman last week to offer a non-confrontational (although direct and candid) interview in which he could answer some ongoing questions and talk on his reasoning behind the decision; I have not yet received a response to the offer--I did, however, indicate that I was just leaving for UK Games Expo, and wouldn't be back until this week.

*Normally I would have covered this in a more timely fashion, but I was away at UK Games Expo from Thursday through to Monday.
 

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$130 for the PDF even with the 10% old KS discount $117 is way more than I am willing to spend. I pledged $15 for the Pathfinder 1e PDF, about 8 times that for the 5e version is right out for me. Looks like I'll get about eight or nine dollars of a refund if it hits around $500K (a bunch of variables in the mix of who has already been refunded and how many apply now could adjust that).
 

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I did not state that as a primary reason.
Allow me to quote you, where you gave one reason and one reason alone:

Even in the unlikely event that they advertised a product made specifically for me, I would not be able to trust that paying for the product would lead to actually getting the product.

Now let’s do fancy grammatical math:

“I would not be able to trust that paying for the product would lead to actually getting the product, even in the unlikely event that they advertised a product made specifically for me.”

See the issue?
 



I'm sorry that's been your experience. It hasn't been mine at the ones I've gone to, which informed my comments. But my experience could definitely be idiosyncratic.
I’ve had … mixed experiences.

I hosted a couple of sessions a while back for a new group assembled off a Facebook ‘looking for group’ post in my area. I’m a bit off the grid so players had to connect to my wi-fi for access to dndbeyond etc. Which was fine.

Fast forward to the next day, and all of a sudden FB is feeding me a continuous fire hose stream of anime nudity and anti trans memes. FB must have detected the new activity through my IP and adjusted its algorithm accordingly.

Yeah, I’m not with that group any more.
 
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Allow me to quote you, where you gave one reason and one reason alone:



Now let’s do fancy grammatical math:

“I would not be able to trust that paying for the product would lead to actually getting the product, even in the unlikely event that they advertised a product made specifically for me.”

See the issue?

The issue, as I see it is that the fancy grammatical math does not follow order of operations.

I was asked if I would order for Bledsaw. My response was "I would not." Full stop. That was ignored when you quoted two of my other responses and rearranged them and changed context to fit what you wanted to read rather than what I stated.

After I stated "I would not," there is a full stop.

After, I added the "even if..." You are counting that second statement as a "primary reason" (not my words) for why I would or not do something. However, I added that statement as an addition to other reasons for why I would choose to not do business with Bledsaw.

I have kept my responses short because I rarely see the value of continuing to use my voice when the audience is determined to hear something else.
 

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