Taylor Navarro Joins Wizards of the Coast as D&D Designer

Paul Farquhar · Friday at 7:28 AM

Mournblade94 said:
Calimshan does not vaguely represent the greenwood calimshan.

As I understand it, Calimshan was not in Greenwood's original FR and was largely created by Doug Niles when TSR bought it.

Paul Farquhar · Friday at 8:54 AM

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
I suspect you guys are talking about different adventures.

There is a carnival-based adventure in Zinda and, separately, an American South analog horror adventure in Godsbreath.

Zinda is probably the most USA based setting in Radiant Citadel, with it's obsession with material wealth. The carnival that features in the adventure is more like a 4th July parade than Mardi Gras.

It's a setting and an adventure that I'm not keen on, and wouldn't use myself (my players would probably choose the other side to the one they are supposed to).

Godsbreath/Written in Blood is great though.

Parmandur · Friday at 1:10 PM

Paul Farquhar said:
As I understand it, Calimshan was not in Greenwood's original FR and was largely created by Doug Niles when TSR bought it.

That's the Moomshae Isles. Calimshan was in his world, but it was more of a loose idea and a name on the map ("Here there be 1001 Nights"). It was later fleshed out by TSR in fairly pedestrian Orientalist manner, not a highlight of the worldbuilding of the FR (which is pretty much just Waterdeep, the Dale lands, and the Sword Coast, the rest were vague ideas).

Mournblade94 · Friday at 2:08 PM

Paul Farquhar said:
As I understand it, Calimshan was not in Greenwood's original FR and was largely created by Doug Niles when TSR bought it.

That was the Moonshae isles. Tethyr, Amn, and Calimshan were part of his world.

Moonshaes were a separate setting made by Niles that Jeff Grubb i think added in there. Funny enough Darkwalker on Moonshae was the 1sr FR novel.

Paul Farquhar · Friday at 3:36 PM

Parmandur said:
it was more of a loose idea and a name on the map ("Here there be 1001 Nights")

So, pretty much exactly what we have in the new FR book then.

Staffan · Friday at 3:51 PM

bedir than said:
Have you read more than a single paragraph describing Calimsham's approach to capturing the Golden Age of Baghdad under the influence of genies written by someone who is both an expert in Middle Eastern Cultures and RPGs?

I'm not familiar with 5.5e Calimshan, but the proper equivalent of the Golden Age of Baghdad with actual genies is Huzuz, the City of Delights, the Gem of Zakhara, and the seat of the Grand Caliph.

bedir than · Friday at 3:54 PM

Staffan said:
I'm not familiar with 5.5e Calimshan, but the proper equivalent of the Golden Age of Baghdad with actual genies is Huzuz, the City of Delights, the Gem of Zakhara, and the seat of the Grand Caliph.

I lust for a modern update to al-Qadim, LUST

Parmandur · Friday at 4:00 PM

Paul Farquhar said:
So, pretty much exactly what we have in the new FR book then.

Hobestly, you could mix the original Grey Box with the new stuff and not have much to worry about in terms of contradictions about Calimshan, it is pretty vaguely outlined originally.

Paul Farquhar · Friday at 4:22 PM

Parmandur said:
Hobestly, you could mix the original Grey Box with the new stuff and not have much to worry about in terms of contradictions about Calimshan, it is pretty vaguely outlined originally.

The 3rd edition book is fairly vague as well. I suspect the "contradictions" that worry a few people come from the novels.

Parmandur · Friday at 4:33 PM

Paul Farquhar said:
The 3rd edition book is fairly vague as well. I suspect the "contradictions" that worry a few people come from the novels.

I think most people inclined to use the Setting at the table don't care, since table canon will inevitably diverge anyways and many are taking the material to file off the serial numbers anyways. I never had trouble mixing SCAG and the 3E book, my Fri nds and family are not FR lore scholars.

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