Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

Reef · Monday at 6:45 PM

ART! said:
This is a really good question. Buy that blu-ray now.

I’d be lying if that very same thought hadn’t crossed my mind…

Whizbang Dustyboots · Monday at 6:58 PM

ART! said:
And they've even said that Doomsday is a direct sequel to Endgame, or picks up right where Endgame ended. This sounds like they're ignoring 7 years of movies and tv shows - I know they won't do that, but putting it like that could rub some people the wrong way.

I'd assume that means we're following Steve Rogers for a bit at the beginning, not that the Thunderbolts and everyone else who's been in a Marvel thing for the past seven years might not pop up. (Not you, Eternals.)

ART! · Monday at 7:04 PM

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
I'd assume that means we're following Steve Rogers for a bit at the beginning, not what the Thunderbolts and everyone else who's been in a Marvel thing for the past seven years might not pop up. (Not you, Eternals.)

My biggest hope for Doomsday and Secret Wars - and this is something I have reason to think the Russos would want to do and are able to do - is to weave together some significant number of the loose threads dangling from the last 7 years of MCU stuff.

Whizbang Dustyboots · Monday at 7:15 PM

ART! said:
My biggest hope for Doomsday and Secret Wars - and this is something I have reason to think the Russos would want to do and are able to do - is to weave together some significant number of the loose threads dangling from the last 7 years of MCU stuff.

Given that Feige's plan during the period appeared to mostly be "let's toss out a bunch of stuff to use in the big crossover," even if all the intervening stuff never happened (it turns out people hated Secret Invasion and the Eternals, for instance), it'd be nice if a lot of the important stuff could be integrated. (I don't think we ever need to see Sharon Carter or Skrull Sharon Carter, or whatever, as a criminal mastermind in Asia.)

Thomas Shey · Monday at 9:00 PM

ART! said:
And they've even said that Doomsday is a direct sequel to Endgame, or picks up right where Endgame ended. This sounds like they're ignoring 7 years of movies and tv shows - I know they won't do that, but putting it like that could rub some people the wrong way.

My guess its more that some elements of the movie take place back at the time of the end of Endgame, and simply haven't previously impacted the broader MCU before now. Given it involves other universes, that's not particularly difficult. There are also some temporal issues at hand (noting it will apparently show some of Steve Rogers' life after he went back to the past).

I can see how there could be a misreading of the phrasing, though.

trappedslider · 2026-04-21T04:10:41+0100

more news from the trailer that was shown, Gambit's leveling up

Marvel's New Avengers: Doomsday Trailer Boosts Channing Tatum's Gambit Powers

Avengers: Doomsday's trailer is great for Gambit.

screenrant.com

Clint_L · 2026-04-21T06:39:35+0100

I want this film to be great. I loved almost everything the MCU put out right through Endgame. I don't think they had a single bad movie in that run, just a few that were mediocre, a bunch that were good to great, and a few classics. A big part of the reason for their success both independently and as a unit was that those films have a relatively tight arc, and a lot of thematic consistency, ultimately built around the juxtaposed hero's journeys of Iron Man and Captain America.

But post-Endgame MCU is a mess, built around a self-defeating multiverse premise, tonal and thematic chaos, and wildly inconsistent films and TV shows, some of which are outright bad.

So now Marvel is going back to the Russos, and back to its heavy hitters, asking them to somehow tie all of that together and somehow bring back the magic. Does that ever work, when an IP-driven franchise tries to reclaim lost glory by looking backwards instead of forwards? Doesn't that just lead to tepid retreads and diminishing returns, both artistically and financially?

So I am hoping that this film will be great, but I'm pretty skeptical of the project.

Stalker0 · 2026-04-21T15:48:06+0100

Clint_L said:
But post-Endgame MCU is a mess, built around a self-defeating multiverse premise, tonal and thematic chaos, and wildly inconsistent films and TV shows, some of which are outright bad.

The way I see it.

Before Endgame - the MCU movies were movies....based on comic book characters.

After Endgame - We have comics as movies.

I think things like the multiverse, which is such a stable of the comic book world, does not translate to the general audience. the MCU worked because it was this continuous narrative about interesting characters saving the world.

But then with teh multiverse, we learn our world is just 1 in a trillion. That there are billion of iterations of the characters we love. That infinity stones are just paperweights in someone's drawer. And that....nothing actually matters.

In comics, looking at characters time and again through different lenses and styles is one of the joys of the medium....but to introduce it after focusing on this tighter cinematic narrative doesnt' work. And so the tapestry has fallen apart.

There are a number of other specific things I can point to, but I think that is the overall issue.

Whizbang Dustyboots · 2026-04-21T18:04:44+0100

Stalker0 said:
But then with teh multiverse, we learn our world is just 1 in a trillion. That there are billion of iterations of the characters we love. \

I've got good news for you about the probable plot of Avengers: Secret Wars.

Whizbang Dustyboots · 2026-04-21T18:17:24+0100

Clint_L said:
So now Marvel is going back to the Russos, and back to its heavy hitters, asking them to somehow tie all of that together and somehow bring back the magic. Does that ever work, when an IP-driven franchise tries to reclaim lost glory by looking backwards instead of forwards? Doesn't that just lead to tepid retreads and diminishing returns, both artistically and financially?

So I am hoping that this film will be great, but I'm pretty skeptical of the project.

Probably the best place to look is DC Comics, which pioneered the multiverse and then overstuffing it, then trimming it back, and repeating the cycle seemingly for the rest of time.

Their first big Marie Kondo event, Crisis on Infinite Earths, was a financial success and cleaned up things quite a bit, although a lot of important writers like John Byrne began chafing against the new restrictions immediately and the clean-up wasn't as neat or as universal as it ought to have been. But it lasted (with some minor housekeeping along the way) for about 20 years, before the new editorial team at DC Comics started hitting the reboot button a little to frequently and for naked commercial purposes. There weren't problems they wanted to solve with their comics, they just wanted to juice their numbers -- the original Crisis was a big commercial event, but it was also accomplishing a needed goal of making the DCU less of a mess.

Now, comic fans roll their eyes when DC threatens to blow things up again, even as today's big writers immediately say "OK, yes, we've neatened up the multiverse again, but what if there was also a dark multiverse?" and the whole cycle begins anew.

I think the Marvel Cinematic Universe can probably pull this off once and make it a success. But I think that's all they get.

And honestly, it would be nuts for my grandkids some day to be watching a continuity that started off with Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man. That would be like us having a DC movie cinematic universe that was built around Christopher Reeves -- fun for some, but wildly unrealistic at this point.