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I don’t disagree with anything you said here. I think the minor “differentiator” here is the level of “relevance” of that perception of cultural appropriation. But, I do believe that is subjective to the individual and group, and as I’ve always stated, a case of what works for you and your group...

Ok, so we can establish that there is a strong common ground from both sides (ignoring the right wing ass hats who band wagon and distort a message as they are wont to do). Note that I’ll be referring to sides just for simplicity and clarity, not to foster adversity. on your two points, it...

So this a point of order, rather than attempt to continue the debate as I think both sides are established. An attempt to cross or at least define the divide here. This encapsulates the “arrogance” I was talking about. Not the opinion itself but in the way it’s worded here. You and yours on...

No additional clarity is needed. My position is made quite clear in the penultimate two paragraphs of my previous post. Trying to delegitimise these points by purposefully ignoring them and reaching for examples that run counter to what I stated shows a lack of good faith in serious discussion...

I pick yours to reply to because I think it’s an accurate distillation of a lot of the counter views and also isnt just repeating points in a banal manner like I’ve not already critiqued them. (Yes, I get it, there were racially loaded terms used by people within that context, it doesn’t mean...

Yeah, refer to my first post on that quote where I’ve already explained what that is and what it is not. I’ve already gone over the language used and again, have discussed that language within its context. I’m not going to repeat it, this just shows you’ve not read what I wrote, whether or not...

I protest not enough if inaccurate assertions are continually being made. But by all means, continue casting aspersions upon my character. I get the motive, I get the well intentioned point. I get the desire to explore literature more deeply and draw a deeper understanding of the human...

Again, he doesn't call them out as a proxy for mongolians at all. The reason for this "cultural baggage" is because people keep repeating this false assertion. To be clear, there is a sense of imagery, an evoking “the other”. A then typical social bias, but this has already been mentioned when...

I have not criticised others personally, nor would I have the arrogance to claim my readings more considered than others and would expect the same courtesy. When Ive Discussed critical literature as subjective and intellectual masturbation, I have and continue to apply that to my own readings...

Well, let’s not forget, it’s appalling to us in a modern context. I suspect it was viewed as a more accurate description to the citizens of caffa as the mongol horde launched diseased cadavers into their city, or to the citizens of Rome as it was sacked. The description from accounts would...

Indeed, there’s lots of potential different things to criticise. And other groups might not share your groups’ particular issue or not agree with your view of it as an issue. Something might only be an issue for a particular while because of circumstance (such as renaming of demons and devils...

That fictional piece is not really equivalent about Smaging Bard though as obvious pieces of disguised parody or slander, or outright hate speech disguised as narrative can be either legitimised (as in parody works) or dealt with legally. No one is has said reader must bear all responsibility...

Yes indeed, quoted me just before my edited reference to that 😂. And that’s how I like to interpret it on one level. On another, them as soulless, hateful, depersonalised tools of war and industry, tearing down an English Pastral (sp) ideal. Which I think is a purposeful echo of the Romantacism...

You’re spot on, I meant more in the figurative sense, evoking of rather than literal in the lore. Referencing the mythology and religion influencing him. As the Elves have this more angelic quality of them compared to the more whimsical woodland elves. Of d&d or earlier works. (so again a...

This is absolutely spot on, on many levels. You’re right that societal rules are not clear on many aspects and in fact can and do change, even within a society, a sub group on a regular basis. Which is why it is a problem when a group demands changes across the board to fit their vision...

GOT is hardly subtle, Westeros is literally an upside down British Isles :p. I think to some extent, it’s just easier from a world building pov. There are reasons why different biomes are like they are, if you’re not confident in all the geographical reasons for their conditions, you can’t go...

I’m confusing nothing. Allegory: a story […] that can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning. It’s not a non sequitur, it’s a tying back a diversion into discussion of Tolkein back to the premise of the thread. Im also not making denials of differences or flattening anything. In fact that’s...