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Ok confession time... Today I'm a graphic designer for a to remain unnamed American space agency, but in my youth (while in college) I was the head baker at a grocery store in Louisiana (also remaining unnamed). There are some things we were never meant to know, this is one of them: I think in...

Point well made. I was hoping for something more substantial than going back to the myth... just seems like folly since D&D already diverges so much from myth (if you ever figure out exactly which myth they are pulling from to begin with).

I suspect the water issues with vampires predates Bram, but like with all else listed above, this could be argued endlessly. I have nothing against using mythical sources for house rules, etc... in the end, every DM chooses for themselves what they want to do. The issue is that this is the Rules...

That is the reason why we have to go with the rules as written, not with myth, because your opinion of which vampire myth D&D is based on will likely be completely different from my interpretation. That's exactly why it's irrelevant in a Rules forum. The subject of myth IS so open to...

That's the internet for you ;). It just seems to me that the use of the word "Terrain", and with that word being defined in the RAW, leaves it fairly clear.

Yes, it should well be able to make those who fail their save believe there is an impediment, but nowhere did I say or even imply the spell can kill. The lethality of it does not come from the spell, be it an illusionary bridge, a deep spiked pit, or an area filled with water, the spell doesn't...

Using Teleport to overcome Wall of Force requires the casting of an equally powerful spell to overcome, not something as simple as breathing or touching. It seems clear to me that some of you have a specific scenario in which illusions are to be used in (trap/hazard covering), and anything that...

Again I'll disagree with you on that. Mirage Arcana is a glamer, able to do quite a bit more than a figment does. Again, what's the point of a 5th level spell that can create environments and buildings, if all needs to do to totally negate them is breathe or walk through them? Seems to me that...

Well, as you stated so wisely it is the Rules forum, not the House Rules forum :p. The RAW may not always make sense and it rarely follows actual myth. The point of this forum is to find out what the exactly the RAW convey, so we as DM's can then make our own decision to overrule them or follow...

So, what exactly IS the point of this environmental illusion spell if it can be instantly disbelieved by breathing? It seems utterly and completely ridiculous to me that a 5th level illusion designed around the very concept of changing what the environment seems to be could not turn a cold...

ElectricDragon, I agree with you that an illusionary spiked pit would, in the end, result in making the victim prone. And I think you might have a good one with the bubble's issue... although wouldn't the bubbles be considered part of the environment? They aren't creatures or part of a creature...

Umm, that's not my interpretation, as stated in the original post: So it would seem to me that the RAW does define exactly what "running water" is: it is "flowing" water, ie rivers and streams.

Actually, the RAW already cover this issue by mentioning the vampire must be immersed, so that does not help towards defining running water.

To clarify one point, I'm not arguing that if you were to create an illusion of a spiked pit via Mirage Arcana, that it would cause damage. I don't think it would, but I do think you could make the illusion work to some extent... I would DM it that you'd "fall", hit the spikes, but they wouldn't...

*nods* I'm with you on the hair issue... as far as the aboleth, he's not going to be within the Mirage Arcana area, but in another part of the cave. And I don't see a reason why you couldn't make an area of solid earth, although its quite unlikely anyone would attempt to walk into the area...

Perhaps the solution to this issue is to go by the nomenclature of the RAW itself. Beyond the ability to alter the appearance of structures (or add them) and the spell affecting more senses, the spell works exactly like Hallucinatory Terrain. And that spell makes one natural terrain like...

A trend I'm seeing in some of the posts is something I've noticed over the years in D&D in general, and something I'm guilty of myself. In most campaigns, Illusions tend to be treated weakly. There's a reason very few people play illusionists, its always been one of D&D's red-headed...

My intended scenario is that as the party goes hunting for an Aboleth, they have to hold their breath and dive through a series of water-filled caverns to get to the next air-filled cavern. The overall path slopes down and the last cavern, the one that holds the Aboleth is actually completely...

Sorry... doublepost.

Well, in my opinion and as stated in my original post, D&D vampires don't follow the rules of myth and literature, so there's no reason to refer to things outside the RAW. According to the RAW, they don't even need to drink blood. I do agree that it does, of course, come down to a DM's decision...