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OP : Is it bad to optimise? answer: I'd say its better than arguing for 6 pages over the definition of plot :p

about the fluff I have my idea I would like to use, but it is kind of hard to be specific without worrying about stepping on someone else's story they may already have going. I poured over everything about the setting on the wiki, but please tell me I dont have to sift through every game...I...

where can I find the L4W: Power Template and is it just c&p as well?

Template:L4W:Character - Simon Highmark Wiki

lets operate under the following assumption: I know nothing about wiki step one go to L4W wiki page : check! step two: On the left side there's a list of things to click on, look for "Create a new article" it'll have a pop-up asking what to call it yeah....not seeing that anywhere on the page...

there is still more to the game than combat, even in 4e....isn't there???

I never use one standard per player...ever. I use a lot of minions, so I can use some higher level foes sprinkled in. as a quick/off the top of my head example: 5 2nd level partygoers target 625-750 xp: 1 wyrm priest, 1 slinger, 2 dragon shields, 8 minions = 12 kobolds The character in...

I guess that is jsut my ignorance...I thought thieves were "centered" around thieving - - my bad

maybe I read it wrong, I thought the ranger WAS the disruptive player, throwing the fit be cause he wasnt the "high damage" guy in the encounter, or throwing fits over not getting good roles...basically, fit throwing should be kept to a minimum at our table, as a general rule of thumb

The ranger would not be invited back to our table, assuming of course this behavior is typical, which it wounds like it is...life is too short to put with this type of player. It comes off as you had a lot of fun paying your gladiator, and interacting with the ranger - thats awesome, and what...

So all thieves are assassins? - I guess I missed that memo LMAO - 3 or 4 standards left? I'd love to DM for you sometime

again, this is not an indictment on you or your style of play, but when you say "this item seems good for me" what you really mean is "this item does killer damage." You took the "quick item" because to paraphrase you : quick = thief ... you took the mighty item because.............mighty =...

Im late to this party, so forgive me if this is old hat. I don't have a problem the way anyone plays d&D, aside from the 7 folks sitting around the same table as me, and even then, as long as we are all having fun I could care less what style someone uses. That said, let me interject one thought...

I wish there existed an actual number of new people to d&D because of 4e vs people that left because of 4e. That sort of number would be impossible to find, and people on this any many other boards can speculate as to what those figures would be, but the truth is, not even the marketing guys at...

if 5E came out tomorrow I would buy it....but we wouldnt quit playing our current campaign to start 5e. At the end of the day, all I can speak for is myself, will they make most people happy? Nobody knows.

but the only question that matters is ... is your 11th level thief fun for you to play?

the link is YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. in the search box enter any one of the names of the 4th ed creative team

I feel silly for asking this Neonchameleon : what is "the power curve" and where can it be found? is it some list or graph or chart somewhere? Is there a service that I could submit my character into and it could "slot" me on the curve where applicable? Here is the next, and arguably most...

I think before people throw out accusations towards Mike Mearls, and Chris Perkins, and Jim Wyatt, and the rest of the folks at Wizards, perhaps take a gander over at the youtube...search for those guys and check out some of the interviews from 2007-2009 about 4th ed and about what they were...

of all the things to argue about.....:yawn: I really dont care how many definitions or big words or technical terms anyone throws out, for me, d&D IS a game. end of line