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  1. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    What are you talking about? I literally said the opposite. You can add new things while doing so while respecting the setting in an organic way. I was sarcastically laying out the absurd resistance to this I’ve been encountering. I never even said anything about Warlocks.
  2. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    There is a ton of content for GH, going on for decades, including full campaigns and tons of support. So it’s been very much in use and a real setting, so what are you saying, exactly?
  3. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    It's the opposite. "Setting Integrity" means there are actually meaningful differences between different settings that make them diverse, and interesting. Getting rid of that, they are all the same and lose any significance or meaning. That's not cool to me, I want Dark Sun to play and feel very...
  4. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    Sure, come up with a cool way to introduce Dragonborn... they could be from a lost valley, or uncharted land where a ship has gone astray and landed. Any way to introduce a new entity into the setting without breaking the world. As others have noted the setting is very forgiving to funky and...
  5. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    No, I do actually. But it seems to be a hostile and offensive idea to want to preserve any of the flavor of GH that makes it an interesting and unique setting. Even if adding new things is ok if done in a thoughtful and organic manner, that too seems to be a bridge too far, and far too...
  6. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    I think it is now apparent the theme doesn't matter at all as long as everything from the latest books is added. It's really all that matters, GH is basically just one step away from worthless, it's just the new stuff that matters. "Sword & Sorcery in a world of danger and adventure" is dead...
  7. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    I didn't say any of that... add whatever you want. I actually said organic growth is great and can be done in really good ways while still keeping the flavor and uniqueness of the setting that makes it special but that is lame right? The setting sucks anyway, it basically has no history worth...
  8. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    Right, who cares, the lore and history of the setting is stupid and doesn't matter.
  9. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    It seems that the idea of Greyhawk as a unique setting with a distinct "flavor" is extremely overwhelmingly unpopular. So ok, turning GH into just another FR with everything and the kitchen sink thrown with no logic also seems to be the prevailing desired viewpoint. All good, just add every...
  10. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    There is nothing wrong with adding to your world in an organic way over time. That sounds awesome because it is, most of the time, well at least some of the time. No guarantees the new content will be great but nothing wrong with trying. All of sudden changing a ton with no rhyme or reason, not...
  11. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    I'd settle on 3e flavor. :) But yes, at best they could walk the line of keeping it open ended enough rules wise, while still maintaining the flavor that makes Greyhawk, Greyhawk without changing so much it becomes meaningless. I have almost no faith in current day wotc they could pull this off...
  12. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    Yeah you said rules, and I was talking about settings, but that also includes races and deities and major factors like that could be considered "rules". You can reflavor/tweak certain mechanical rules, like spells and whatnot to make it work. Sometimes that does mean different versions, like...
  13. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    Then I really don't see the difference, they were unknown or rare and now you find one or them. They might be from some lost island or some lost valley, but they aren't every day. You don't all of sudden have an entire Tabaxai country just made up in the middle or say DB where always involved...
  14. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    I guess I disagree, all of sudden having Tieflings and Dragonborn and Bunny/Cat people walking around everywhere with no rhyme or reason and no connection or interplay with the world breaks it for me on many levels. It makes it not that world but a different one, so why not just use the...
  15. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    We also modify as needed, no different. My issue would be making sweeping changes that fundamentally alter the "vibe/favor, whatever you want to call it", in some haphazard way that would kill it for me. You were making a point that all the rules must be kept, or it all breaks. You were being...
  16. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    You are proving my point, you can add "new" stuff without destroying the setting's flavor and what makes it fun and unique to other settings. You don't have to turn GH into FR, if that's the case just use FR and be done, why bother? For the record, we actually ran a 5e GH campaign with a DB PC...
  17. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    If the settings doesn't match your current vision of the game, maybe it's the wrong setting. Seems also like a ton more work to haphazardly shoehorn in your game into a settings that doesn't match than just making a new one, or using a an existing one. The strict rules are you must have all new...
  18. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    Yeah it's not going to change with the new 6e GH, agreed. There would be a setting "cool" way to introduce more rare and "funky" races previously not seen in the setting. And, there would be the lame out version of, now we say they were always there, you know just because. Find a cool way to...
  19. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    Well if you are going to change everything why use any pre-existing settings at all? Just make up a new one and abandon all previous works. And remember as soon as 7e comes up abandon that just created world as well, because you know, strict rules. Why is it so hard to just keep the "flavor...
  20. AstroCat

    D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

    It's not all or nothing, you can make some adjustments to some "rules" while 100% maintaining the integrity of the setting. I never said you can't, you did.
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