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I don't play Dragonborn... yet. Because I find them to strong. Kind of boring.

"Controller" is also about killing minions quicker in order to "clean" up the battlefield. You don't want strikers wasting precious attacks on minions. Wizards' area spells help speed up minions to their respective gods. I built a 12th level combat wizard that dealt overall much more damage...

Dragonborn third tier race ?! :confused: They are the only one with STR bonus... and dragonbreath is so minion destroyer.

More Feats necessary ! They list one feat per diety and think that Clerics/Paladins have a lot of feats ?

Unless your picking the multiclass at 1st lvl you can retrain religion the level before picking Cleric. Its wierd not having religion trained for a lvl and suddenly your a "Cleric" of that religion... :angel:

The higher the level the more interesting Cure Serious becomes... since the Cha bonus of Bastion of Health becomes mininal. One thing you didn't mention -> Cure Serious is a standard action and melee touch. Bastion I'd say is more flexible... range 10 and minor. Hard choice... it depends on...

I've been reading the Cleric powers... and they do eclipse the Warlord. Healing wise its not even comparable... but they boost more I feel. At-wills are fun too.

Julio ? If JoshR is not my friend... then I'm impressed. Its the same description of the group we are setting up. I've been doing some research on the Paladin. The hospitaler has some great healing powers. So much that I wonder if its even practical to have a Cleric at all in such a group.

Does anyone actually play frequently at Epic level ? I see so many discussions about powers at that level... we rarely bother to play that high.

What critical feats would these be ? I only remember devastating critical that gives +d10. - - - - - As for the dice rolling... we have a friend that consistently has bad luck at rolling. He actually rolls more 6's when that is bad for him. I play board games with him... its the only time...

We have a tactical Warlord in our first 4E group... and he does seem frustrated. Even though he did pull off a great maneuver in the last game... getting two other characters into flanking positions and really avoiding a nasty flanking of one of our own. But these moments are rare compared to...

I agree with the OP. In 3.X and before having a 10 DEX meant lousy AC. Now you can compensate with good INT. You can get away better with lousy secondary/terciary stats in 4E than in 3.X, if you can pick one of each pair of attributes that increase defenses. The temptation to sacrifice other...

Is their any official ruling on this ?

We ran a paragon test session yesterday and my DM is questioning some spell stuff. 2nd Lvl Wizard Utility Spell -> Shield. It says "trigger: You are hit by attack" Does Shield give you a chance against that very attack that triggered the spell ? Or it will help only against future attacks ...

Formatting is fine... I understood what happened... but answering will be much more complicated. Anyone ? :p I think you were correct as regards the paladin challenge. As for the cover I'd rule that the bodies don't give cover... but since the Gel Cube actually covers the area that the rogue...

Or spreading your minions more... In many topics its been discussed that more than 1 Dragonborn in a group means minions and controllers (anti-minion "specialist") get the short end of the stick.

You have too many Dragonborn... 3 breath weapons per encounter mean that minions will never be a big threat to your party. As for the topic... small skirmishes if they make players spend healing surges are already draining them a bit.

There seems to be a clear racial discrimination against Orcs... :p

Americans seem to game with non-friends a lot. We have a good number of players that are all friends amongst them. 20 something people. We have various groups mixing them all up. Some stop playing... some just leave for a while to raise newborn kids. All keep in touch and are friends. Still...

Any good threads on Frost Mage builds ?