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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    Yes. Absolutely correct. That both parties receive consideration from the contract is almost certainly the reason that they sought to "deauthorize" the OGL, twisting a part of the contract intended to protect licensees in order to harm them, instead of revoking it.
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    This is simply incorrect. Nobody expected WotC to keep them afloat. Nobody built their business upon the "expected altruism" of WotC. They entered into a legal contract with WotC and abided by the terms of it in good faith. The only thing they expected of WotC was that they not attempt to...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    There is nothing hateful in my post. I think that your condescension, your armchair psychology, and the little digs you try to get in at people are disrespectful, but I can assure you, I don't hate you. And no, I'm good on the length. My post is exactly as long as it needed to be, and given...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    In my last post, I was going to say that, a lot of the time, you don't seem to be talking to the person you're responding to so much as other people who might read your post but haven't read the thread or been reading closely. When you say, for example, that another poster seems too hot under...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    The shorter version of what you're saying is that business owners should watch out for their employees. Not a single person in this thread has disagreed with that at any point. I asked you what specific, concrete steps licensees could have taken to prepare for the possibility that WotC might...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    I'm more than happy to stop talking about this, but I'm also willing to distill my post down to the three questions I asked. You're welcome to address them or not, but I am legitimately curious as to your answers. 1.) You've used loaded language when talking about business owners, suggesting...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    It's not hyperbole. I used the term "bad people" because, in one of your posts that I quoted, you suggested that a business owner should do certain things in order to "actively [be] a good person" and I said that not doing those things doesn't make them a bad person. As far as the rest goes...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    Fair enough. I object to your characterization of my motivation (I didn't assume bad faith, I believed I saw evidence of it), but I take your point. I will watch my language in the future. However, can I ask where the line is? Would it have been acceptable if I had described the activity of...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    I'm putting two quotes from two different responses together because they're related. Nobody who runs a business goes into every contract assuming that the other party is a bad actor. In general, even outside of running a business, people don't enter into contracts assuming that the other...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    You're conflating two things here: the risk inherent in running a business, and the harm caused by a party to a contract acting in bad faith. Obviously, there is significant risk involved in running your own business, but the major licensees that I'm talking about were companies that were...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    Saying that it only hurt the little guys might not be the winning argument you think it is. I have no idea how many of the bigger licensees shut down. What I do know is that a lot of the bigger licensees were the first to be contacted, and they spent the better part of three months not knowing...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    It seems like you don't remember (or never actually understood) what WotC tried to pull. If you haven't read it in a while (or haven't read it at all), Linda Codega's article is a good starting point. WotC circulated a version of the new OGL (which was an OGL in name only) to larger creators...
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    D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

    Both of you are incorrect. Indestructoboy was the first to leak WotC's intent to gut the OGL on November 10th, 2022. This is easily verifiable. He was vague about the specifics in order to protect his source, but he stated that he was told that the OGL would effectively go away and that WotC...
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    WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

    I don't know who the private detectives had Cannon call, specifically, but I am certain it was someone in WotC's investigations or intelligence division, or whatever they happen to call it there. (Or, more accurately, at Hasbro's investigations or intelligence division. When I say WotC, you...
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    WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

    It's definitely true. By the time articles were being written, WotC's statement was that this was an investigation into "embargoed product". And, from the beginning, Cannon said that the cards were purchased. The only people in this whole debacle who claimed that the cards were stolen were...
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    WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

    Thanks. I checked flyingtoastr's comments, but couldn't find anything in them saying that WotC contacted Cannon through the comment section of his videos, which is what I'm interested in here. It's clear that, at least by the time journalists were writing about the incident, nobody believed...
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    WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

    What I'm asking about specifically is where people are saying "that Hasbro (WoTC) employees did attempt to contact [Cannon] through the comments on Youtube, but he deleted their comments on youtube." I haven't come across that anywhere. Not in any article. Not in the comment section of any...
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    WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

    Is there a place where I can read about these claims? In one article on the subject, Linda Codega quotes Dan Cannon as saying that the Pinkerton agents told him that they didn't call ahead of time because they worried that he would destroy the evidence that they wanted. It's possible that...
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    WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

    I agree with you completely. Based on what I've read about this situation, I am not on the side of WotC. In this thread and elsewhere, I've seen people say things that suggest that the problem was that WotC hired Pinkerton specifically, which suggests that if they'd hired some other firm that...
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    WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

    I think that focusing on the involvement of Pinkerton misses the point here. Street level private detective work is, by its very nature, pretty shady. Private detective agencies can't compel anyone to cooperate with their investigations, so they resort to dirty tricks. They lie about who they...
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