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i saw someone using gestalt classes but only for racial paragon and other similar race-theme classes...apparently it worked out very well. a typical elf ranger/fighter would look like: elf paragon//ranger/fighter which i thought was a little odd, but hey, he figured out how to swing it just fine.

that makes sense. I mean, as a wizard you know how they work, you probably even have your own signature security line to prevent "hacking" your spell, i'm sure you'd have a backdoor work-around too. [/hacking-metaphor]

To echo the others' words, It is usually wise to pick complimentary but quite different skills. I remember a druid//barbarian that was absolutely the best in-melee fighter i've ever seen. Shillelagh, change shape, rage, great hd... warlock//df adept, to sum up, probably is too closely related...

*sticks hands outside the violet ward, casts fireball, pulls hands back in* why not?

yeah i was considering exactly that! good to know it's not a hokey idea. this will be a good supporting bad guy i think...

Hey all, doing a bit of character design for a friend. Anyone happen to know the largest number of arms a +0 or +1 LA race has is? I'm looking through my monster mauals, but i keep getting guys that have +3 or so (aside from the Thrikeen, with 4 arms).

*agrees with Kolvar* though i would go a little further even. If someone is -really good- at throwing them, they could intentionally hit the target in such a way that it slices, too. dunno why they would, but don't see any harm in allowing it either.

don't take this the wrong way dany, i mean no harm by it, but do you mind re-reading the OP? it's implied (i'll add it so that it's explicit) only simple weapons, no unarmed strike, no stuning fist, no flurry of blows, etc. i dont want a warrior mok. i want a force-wielder, but not a guy with...

very good idea, perhaps they want a feat which makes them more dragon themed, or more dragon-like? might be a fair trade.

yeah, i like the kensai as a monk/warrior type. pretty amazing skills with his chosen blade... my purpose with the Adherent is to remove the unarmed combat aspect of the monk, making his discipline and whatnot stronger with psionic abilities. If a monk was a non-combatant and had a couple...

it'd have to be a small-sized boulder, right? ^_^ so cute! lol

why take a class that focuses ond ragon magic, but dump the dragon magic? personally, imho, i would say no way to dropping dragon domain with the swift wing...

reading all of this, i am reminded of a time when 2.0 seemed broken or inadequate. then 3.0 seemed so. then 3.5 seemed like an overcompensation for the inadequacies.... and yet, they've all been pretty decent. I'm gonna wait it out and see what 4 does (and maybe 4.5) before i go off on how...

complete agreement

*points at the 95% chance of angry deities* *does it again* *once more for emphasis* DM: Cope with it. Deal with it. Don't Cry.

this is what i've been using, though i added a fourth domain at 20th (and spread out the rest), and changed turn undead to turn evil outsider. Oh and added an extra domain spell per day (because of the extra domain) in place of a regular spell per day...

So what sort of BAB, powers, abilities, and so on should a celestial-hating evil character have? If necessary, I plan on spawning a new class out of this discussion. Check out my other class too! I need some pointers/praise, lol. the adherent

awwww, but what if the giant was -cursed- to be tiny? Bizarre back story? yes, i think so. but possible. Rod of wonder backfire, anyone?

The Adherent add it. check it. scream. rave. rant. reply?

since I'm in the habit of practicing necromancy on long-forgotten house-rule class threads (lol), here's a thought to chew on perhaps: Sorcerers have lesser (but more powerful?) spell selection that wizards. why not make all wizards generalists, and all sorcerers specialists? it seems to make...