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What the grick is going on in this thread?

Well, I guess I'm a special snowflake, because I will probably allow them, but adapt them to my world, rather than try to force them in. And what the heck is a special snowflake anyway?

I am quoting this for truth. The way I read it, and the way I will interpret it is that the Warlord simply gives the OPTION for one of his allies to make these movements - and that is it. The ally does not have to take this option and if he wishes to waste the option, then that is on the ally...

Thanks for the assistance. It took me awhile, but I finally found a link to a link to a link to a board of someone who says they received a phone call. Truly a sad day if we get independent news source verification. Edit: and here it is :(...

You'd better provide a link... Because this is one horrific disgusting joke if you're just making it up.

You are correct in that those five classes will most likely not appear in the 4e PHB.

Wow - very interesting. Much more interesting that I would have guessed - like actual thought went into the race. Yummy!

I believe that is the crux of your issue right there. You need to meet more DMs, particularly devious ones. The notion that you need a system to counteract player ingenuity, rather than a good DM, is a depressing commentary on your gaming environment. I'm not trying to be insulting. I do...

Fantastic analogy.

Now *that* was an answer!

Your analogy scares me - not simply because I sat there and watched what was, initially an interesting MMO turn into crap stew deluxe, but because the notion that it could be applied to 4e simply makes me shiver. I think the difference, however, is that unlike the designers of D&L, the...

Absolutely not - I thought it was very well written and I just want to QFT

It appears you have issue with cosmetic differences, rather than anything concrete. Use make up - play 4e - all the cool popular kids are doing it.

Who knows, maybe he believes the rules are streamlined enough that interpretation will be less, thereby, in his eyes, being perfect. It's difficult to know what one reviewer finds objectionable compared to another, and why. And, because I want to pound it home some more, we haven't seen the...

Well, with all due respect, why didn't you just ask for more reviews, rather than claim it needed to be re-evaluated due to two less than favorable reviews when there are twenty favorable ones. Sometimes, regardless of the sample set, a trend will be apparent to those who do not have the...

Well, if this thread is any indication, then it really IS just like an MMO! People are going to hate it. People are going to complain about it. People are going to want it to bear their first born child. People are going to want to create an NPO so they can worship it. And then, in the...

You realize, of course, that you are demanding 'believability' in a fantasy role playing game? To me, it seems as if you are attempting to justify your decision to dislike 4e based on a portion of the game, rather than wait and turn a critical eye to its entirety.

I agree! Thank goodness - do you think they finally hired a costumer or fashion designer to do what was necessary, rather than rely on the geek-set fashionistas that can barely dress themselves? Somehow, though, I doubt it. Maybe 5e will have fashion forward fantasy wear...

Absolutely concur. The beauty of it is a sense of actual divinity thrust in opposition to undead. Rather than rolls that followed an arbitrary chart, like 2nd, or were so convoluted that my players hated even using the power, like 3rd - this version of 'Turn Undead' is simple in it's...

Maybe I'm missing something about the argument in this thread, but we have only seen the combat rules for the system, and then a narrow view of even that. Who is to say, (as was implied in part 2 of manawyrm's post) that there isn't a more robust system for other situations that occur in...