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I finally looked up Noir tropes, and I think the Acolyte fits pretty darn well into the Noir genre as well: Noir Tropes

quotes from the article, and my replies: I think it’s by far the weakest link in this series, and it’s the central storyline so that’s problematic I think its supposed to be the weakest link. Literally. They barely hold all of this together. They are divided in their own loyalties/focus. In a...

Im calling it now. That scar. Its a whiplash And now I am really reaching: I think Qimir is Vernestra's Padawan Imri Cantaros. In canon he is "dead" and died about a 100 years before the show. After all Vernestra did say "She (mae) was trained by a jedi, i can see that from the holovid" (or...

oooh!!! man!!! I enjoyed the heck out of Episode 6. Gotta see a light whip! Gotta learn about cortosis (and how the helmet worked was a great explination)! The Stranger(?) said a couple of things that I've heard somewhere before (papa palpatine?) The "mirror" scenes: Oshie is "free" Mae is...

All I can say is Yes. I think it is good. You consider these holes, and problems. I can't say that I do. I don't need an in universe reason why Sol can't tell the difference. For me, for the story I think they are trying to tell, it makes sense. Does it make logical sense? Nope. Does it...

im not interested in fixing your opinion, but I am sure not interested in discussing your preferences. Unless you provide examples or evidence then it is not an opinion, it is a preference and there is little point in debating it. As, you cannot debate taste. frex. you say it is not well...

oh, thanks, i tried to look it up and got confused. I have not read the duology. nor the I jedi

i simply do not accept the premise that something must be telegraphed in prior material to be introduced into current media. You do. I guess I have to leave this part of the discussion to well established in canon and famous Chocolate v Vanilla case.

by that logic, then you couldn't introduce anything that is ever new to a franchise without telegraphing it for hundreds of hours. In the thrawn trilogy cortosis was introduced, as far as I know it was not telegraphed for hundreds of hours. To the people at that time, it was a totally new thing...

I was "surprised" that it was Qimir. By that I mean, that they telegraphed it so hard, I figured it HAD to be fake out. I think the fights in the episode were brutal. Especially between Jecki and Mae. I think I felt some of those kicks! And as I have examined this through a YA lens, I've tried...

could you provide examples? Because if you don't I can't do anything other than go, okay you dont' like this, you think it isn't executed well. And move on.

oh i see my google search was weak, that is correct. doesn't change my opinion that Acolyte at the very least is inspired by YA and that a lot of the complaints about it are complaints about the genre, not bad writing/acting in particular.

Luke is 19 in ANH YA age range is 18-25 And ofcourse YA is literature, not movies. I think Acolyte in particular is really influenced by YA, and I don't find it a "marketing" catagory any more than I regard pulp as a marketing category, nor Soap Opera, nor adult, nor drama, nor comedy, nor...

i figure Vernestra will bury whatever comes of the info. She seems to be very interested in hiding things that put the Jedi Order in a bad light. I hope Sol doesn't die. But I kinda figure this is a "samurai" tragedy story.

As I thought about it more. I can really see that Star Wars in general, currently, is YA fiction. Yea there are outliers like Andor. And I realized that is a small but important shift. It started with pulps, and I think the pulps are the grandmother/father to YA. They both have similiar...

Scooby doo is right!! And I loved the episode, but don't like scooby doo. My friend (a librarian) pointed out that the Acolyte is basically YA fiction. The Top 10 YA Tropes & How to Avoid Them I looked at that list and said - omagosh!! It is! No wonder I like it so much. I'm glad to have it...

on a walk I was thnking about Ep4 and the criticism about Mae's sudden turn. And I find it believable to me IF she was in a double bind. And I think she was because she says twice that the task is "impossible". Now from what I understand from Zen Teacher Alan Watts, and what I have experienced...

i just checked. in the scene when Mae goes to see Kelnacca. He has no lightsaber attached to his belt. His lightsaber is at his side in a previous scene in this episode. I wonder if he is saying that the to get the "drop" on the jedi and beat them before they have a weapon, is the ultimate show...

Im rewatching Ep4. Im at the part where Mae and Qimir are on Khofar. It seems like the scene from ESB. Yoda training Luke. Giving him impossible aphorisms: Zen Koans. Making here doubt herself and her commitment. As Alan Watts would say: Putting her in a double bind. Till she realizes that it...

well i can say when I read this, my attitude was there is nothing here to discuss. You didnt like it. What is there to debate? You spoke your mind. I read it. I'll not engage. No arguing taste.