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Karinsdad said: If either side could prove their case conclusively, we would not be having this long drawn out discussion. Someone would point to the rules and the other side would not be able to say anything about it. If only this were true!! :) What actually happens is that the people on the...

Artoomis: Your quote is the very one we are referring to. Note that it occurs in the Move Equivalent Action section. Note that it does not occur in the earlier section regarding full-round actions and their 5' steps. Tony Vargas: Rather than bet, why don't you find a second one, and then...

I'd second what Hypersmurf said -- KD, you've argued in another thread for interpreting the extra partial from haste as being essentially in another round. The quote you pointed out is valid -- but is it so from you? :)

Artoomis wrote: Please don't ask how Refocus works with Haste. I was just wondering that! Suppose you do this for your action: (partial attack, refocus) Now, suppose you were last in initiative but refocus moves you to first. So it's your turn again immediately, and now you do: (full...

Refocus, first of all, is an almost worthless action. From the sage advice supplemental pages of the PHB 2nd edition: "About the only time refocus isn't a foolish thing to do is when you've got absolutely nothing useful to do anyway." This is not entirely correct, because if you use the rules...

Hah, funny :)

AGGEMAM, you're officially a silly-head! :p I'll note only one of your sillinesses: rule of thumb - rule of D&D - call it what you will. It still a rule. Except the rule you quoted ("if your entire movement for the round is 5' ...") pertains to receiving AoOs, and in no way speaks towards...

Oops! My mistake. Still leaves two MEAs unaccounted for...

I'll drop my current one (free), cast, and then pull out the next (also free). Don't force me to get silly! Might force you to get correct ;) AFAIK: Unstrap buckler from arm : MEA Drop buckler : Free Get next buckler from pack : MEA Strap next buckler to arm : MEA That aside, where is this...

My current campaign is very by-the-book, with minor changes, in no particular order. Note that I run a low-medium level campaign with not much cash for players. 0) Skill Focus -- unchanged ;) 1) Shield provides no actual cover. 2) When rolling hit points, a player may opt to re-roll once...

Deja vu. One very important facet of "segregating" actions like what Karinsdad is suggesting comes up with the issue of Ready actions. Is the partial action prepared by a Ready segregated from the standard action which you took to Ready it? After all, it's a full-fledged partial action, just...

On PHB p. 122, it says: "If you have the Combat Reflexes feat ... you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make between actions." This strongly implies that resetting on the turn boundary is hogwash. In KD's example, I'd rule the AoOs recharge on...

Joy, this topic. firstly, is a 5'step allowed with a partial action? if one can do a partial charge, i don't see why not I've seen the Sage rule both ways on this, more recently on the "no" side (unless there's been a further flip-flop?). I think the rules come down in favor of the "yes"...

Unfortunately, "my" quote (You must move before your attack, not after.) also comes from the same paragraph. :( That was my point. ;) Re: (partial charge, move) Ready a 5' diagonal step forward and attack when the charging character is 10' away. Ouch. The ready action you suggest is effective...

My PHB says: "All movement must be in a straight line, with no backing up allowed." No "during the charge" restriction. You try again ;)

Iku Rex said: "You must move before your attack, not after." (description of charge in the PHB.) The charge action is already limited to prevent this, so that's covered. Yes, that would be right next to the bit about all movement having to be in a straight line, wouldn't it? :p

I remembered a reason why allowing PA+MEA is actually a bad thing: (partial charge,move) becomes a legal standard action. As in, "I charge 30' with my reach weapon, attack, then move 30' back." (Partial charge/run, non-move MEA) annoys me too, though much less so. I would limit it as follows...

Untrue twice over. You're forgetting sequence of actions and partial runs. The Ready action lets you do MEA,PA, sure -- but not PA, then MEA. So actually using the printed rules for Ready, the turn is not really very equivalent to PA+MEA unless you basically ignore the printed rules and...