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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Again, I'll respond to this point-by-point, if I may: I take it by "different classes", then, you mean something more akin to different castes? That is, there will be various distinct groups of people, but all of equal status? If so, then I agree that is a worthy goal. I jumped a step there...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    No, you're right. For what it's worth, I had written a longer post which expressed the point more fairly (and with much more subtlety), but when it was accidentally deleted I went with the "YouTube comment" version. The point stands, however, that if a harm doesn't directly affect you, one...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Except, if the supply of something goes down (e.g. some business won't serve you), the price goes up (e.g. immigrant-friendly businesses charge more). The free market is like the honey badger. But it's not ethical, or fair.
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Fair enough. That was overly-glib, and I apologize.
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Exactly. Prevent businesses from creating "different rules for different people" (e.g. Whites are served, Blacks are not).
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    You cover a lot of ground there. Let me respond to the points you make one by one: "I believe the goal for our culture should be to have no classes" - I'm not sure what to make of this, exactly. The goal is everyone should be the same, homogenous mass? Or that everyone should be judged based...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Your argument would be strengthened if you were to describe what, precisely, would be the "very bad consequences" or the expected end of the "very dangerous road". What exactly is the harm in protecting a discriminated class? That a Nazi might be able to purchase goods and services?
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Again, the discussion is about denying service to classes, not individuals. In your examples, as with someone who chooses a sex partner, discrimination to an individual is fine. No one is arguing that. And, in most cases, sex isn't generally defined as a business (admittedly, a legal prostitute...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    You are, I believe, right in the sense that the specific U.S. Constitution doesn't cover rights of this nature, but that does ignore the larger ethical question. This is a hypothetical, and a bold-faced strawman at that, but bear with me if you would: Suppose you lived in the centre of the...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    That, however, conflates the idea of being forced to provide a service (e.g. being forced to clean houses) with being forced to provide a service to a class you dislike (e.g. a maid being prohibited from not cleaning Catholic houses). If you are willing to provide the service to an anonymous...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    No, I'd agree with that. Thank you for that, by the way.
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    But all those examples are based on individuals, this is about discriminating against a class. If it were solely about a business' right in enforce a dress code, maybe I'd agree. But it isn't, and pretending it is is deliberately missing the point. [EDITED TO ADD:] It may be important to make a...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    That's the crux of it, isn't it? Two rights are in conflict. One, the business' right to refuse service, and Two, the client's right to be served. Since both can't coexist, one right must trump the other. Ethically, the one which causes the less harm to the other should prevail. What harm comes...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    I see where you're coming from, and to an extent, I sympathize. BUT: People don't always have the luxury of choosing to take their business elsewhere, nor should they be forced to. Discrimination is discrimination, and should not be tolerated in a fair and just society. Look up Tyranny of the...
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Really? Really? "No dogs or Irish" is fine with you? In 2015?!?
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    Gen Con Takes Stand For Inclusiveness

    Said the straight, white, male.
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    7 Podcasts to Up Your Role-playing Games

    By far, my favorite podcast is http://www.kenandrobintalkaboutstuff.com/ by Robin Laws (Feng Shui, Heroquest, Hillfolk, GUMSHOE) and Ken Hite (Trail Of Cthulhu, Day After Ragnarok, GURPS Infinite Worlds). It's clever, good audio, and as far as I know, the only gaming podcast done by two...
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    "Virtual" Battlemat: Advice?

    I'm hoping someone can help me with this one: I have a laptop that I want to use as a virtual battlemat for a tabletop RPG. I'm hoping I can use the maps directly from the pdf of the adventure without having to re-draw everything on a battlemat (whiteboard). The problem I'm facing is that I...
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