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Why do you believe this? Three players, based on the feedback provided, opted not to go. Why couldn't the other two players simply of 'jumped into the void in the pentagram' so to speak? Agreed. Agreed. Disagree. In this example, the players would of acted because of a 'lack' of information...

Agreed. *Smacks head repeatedly against the wall "why did I allow it!"*

*Bordrins Watch Spoilers* Ok, lets address this. If, in your mind, my DMing style equates to my personality, then I'm guilty. Using the term 'personality' also implies that I was doing things on a whim,..however, there is a reason why the pipes are as they are. THAT was a determining factor...

Ok he's usefull in other ways,..how usefull is he in getting the ememy to focus of him as opposed to another party member? The fighter has the combat challenge feature, which is great. The paladin doesnt have an equivalent were he could strongly influence the movement of one or two opponents...

Sorry dude, I totally disagree. The fighter and the paladin share the smae role - Defenders. That is the ability to encourage being the focus of any enemy attack by marking and using class features. In my opinion, the fighter does a better job of this than the Stralidin. Again, I disagree, I've...

Is there a fighter in the party who's peerformance you can compare against?

All Good. Thats how it was built. There was a time cost paid, not because of the pipe, but because of the fact that the player split up. They were provided the necessary information to know that splitting up at this juncture would cost time. Frankly, there wasn't any reason for them to go...

*Spoilers from Bordrin's Watch* Once alerted, the orcs open this drain to prevent/delay further reinforcements from the city and to cut off the PC's they have spotted. THATS its purpose in the game. And yes, it also 'could' be used as an escape route by the PC's provided they correctly...

Fair enough, but what do you think about the idea?

I like your thoughts. In respect with item 3, the players obviously too late realised the consequences of splitting the party in terms of xp lost. I 100% agree with your sentiment in respect to the party splitting, so long as they players realise that there will be real world roleplaying...

I've been toying with the idea of doing the skill challenge d20 for for the players, so they don't know the result if it's a conversational skill challenge (and perhapse not even announce that a skill challenge in progress). So if I role a natural 20 on a players behalf, the only thing to...

If its unplayable,..and trust me, i tried twice, then it's a failure. My view of a paladin is Strength based. He isn't grooming himself in the mirror (see Shrek's Prince Charming ;)) or trying to beat the 10 Str Wizard in an arm wrestle because he too has the same Str, ao it should be a...

Bravo, I agree 100%. I too wanted to go for the concept,..oh well, heres to 5th Ed getting it right - 4th Ed pally = failure...sigh.

Huh, so now it's an art! :p Like for instance, footprints, a locked grate, handgrips running along it,...those sort of hints? Fear not, pipes are my speciality,..err,..that came out wrong. :o

Heh, you wish. I've seen some interesting point in this thread so far, including: Narritive play v's sharing DM plot authority v's Verisimilitude/simulationism Bordom v's Fun Skill v's art Meta gaming v's railroading Current players v's new players Insta kills v's skill checks Being Dumb and...

Geez, I wanted a beer, and he offers a brewing company! JOY! :D I'll get my gaming gear sorted asap ;)

They took 10 on all the checks. I later learnt that you can't do this via the rules, but in order to save time and considering their potential life or death predicament, I allowed it. So they passed the challenge, but did not face any real risk. Would you consider what they did worthy of...

woot! Xp! :d

I agree with your sentiment. However, consider the following points. a. Taking 10 in itself earns no xp (all other things being equal). b. I am inclinded to award them some xp, because they did face some non life threatening risk (Unless they both rolled 1's), and yes they were smart in...

Alas, I'm in Melbourne, Australia. Buy I'd like to visit sometime, assuming of course, there's nice beer to be had in San Jose? (err, where exactly IS that, anyway?).